Re: [PSES] Ecma TR-106 available

[Richard Nute]

Hi Brian: On 2/26/2013 10:06 AM, Brian Oconnell wrote: More good stuff from Mr. Nute. And more questions from the peanut gallery. 1. Other than the SPD and flame test issues, what where the problems that the TC had with the 1st edition? Too numerous to list.  That's why its taken several years to develop edition 2. 2. Is TC108 still scheduled to vote in March? Not TC108, but country national committees to the IEC.  I don't know the exact date, but, yes, March or something. The USA National Committee has voted "yes."  I don't know the voting record for other countries. 3. Do organizations such as UL and CSA have the influence to get the next building code updated (NEC and CEC) to specify 62368-1? UL and CSA simply adopt the standard as a UL or CSA standard (with national deviations).  At some point in time, they will withdraw their 950 and 65 standards for new product certification (which will force new products to UL/CSA 62368-1.  UL will submit their UL/CSA 62368-1 for an ANSI standard. The NEC does not specify product standards; it states that products must be "listed."  No comment on CEC. 4. 62368-1 says components having 60950-1 reports/certs are acceptable, and the UL seminar said that no diff for component requirements. So why are agencies charging 25% more for a component report that contains only one additional drawing and two additional test pages compare to the ITE report? Are we paying to train agency engineers? Cert houses are money-making organization.  They charge for their services, including two additional test pages. They market the right to use their mark.  Their product is some sort of document such as a listing report. Yes, we pay to train cert house folks just as your employer pays to train you in using a new standard. Brian Best regards, Rich - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>