Gary - Per the list of harmonized standards published by the European Commission, EN 60950-1:2001 was superseded by EN60950-1:2006 on 1JAN2010. Per CENELC's web site, EN60950-1:2006 was published in 14APR2006.
If we were to assume even a three months delay before being published in the EU OJ, there was about a 3 1/2 year transition window. Peter Tarver > -----Original Message----- > From: McInturff, Gary > [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 08:06 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments > > Ha now I'm getting new words - lost favor and expired, > but not so not sure I have asked the right question and > I have a follow-up question. > First of all my preference would be to update to the > current standards etc but we have an existing product > with very small sales for Europe. Sales is all over the > place claiming low voltage directive, and I am pointing > out that an even though the ITE equipment is in fact > powered by very low voltage there is a harmonized > standard for this type of equipment that takes > precedence, 60950. Obviously they disagree since it > affects their sales. I am holding my ground since it is > my function to help protect our markets in EU and for > the potential legal and economic impact on our company > if all goes wrong. In the middle I suppose is that the > risk is very small - a logical argument that I have to > counter every so often. > So what I'm really trying to determine is this. > > Obviously new products have to meet 60950 but existing > products have a presumption of conformity even under > old standards for X time. So if it still maintains > presumption of... and that presumption of hasn't > expired cannot I not release the small number of units > to sales? I'm really trying to find a middle ground > while these guys get their act together to build a > business case that would warrant the expenditure to > update the product to the new standards. > > I have to dig out the scope for the LVD, but I do have > to admit I don't have a great argument why the low > voltage ITE device couldn't satisfy the safety > directives by claiming it under the LVD (still has EMC > concerns which are in fact addressed). Hopefully I can > develop that argument before I get the call I know is > coming from the VP of sales etc. > > Thanks for the input so far and the date of standard > withdrawal, but still need to understand if I can > maintain presumption of conformity if the docopos- > whatever hasn't expired. > > Happy to send John the nickel. > > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:30 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments > > In message > <D250D01E39356A4E9CC3B4B459D6655097DCF204@MS-CDA- > 01.advanced-input.com>, > dated Thu, 18 Jul 2013, "McInturff, Gary" > <gary.mcintu...@esterline.com> > writes: > > >Anybody know the Docopocoss (or whatever on that) on > IEC 60950-1:2001, > >First Edition I have a small sale - not large enough > to generate the > >approval fees to 2nd edition and latest amendments. > But if the date of > >cessation et al - hasn't passed we could continue with > the sale. My > >first answer was no to the Marketeers - but I think > I'm wrong if the > >old standard still provides presumption of conformity. > > It expired on 1 December 2010. > -- > OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk > Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? > > John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, > Essex UK > > - > ------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety > Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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