Dan, NiCd is not allowed period. I actually had a customer refuse delivery and they sent back the battery packs. My understanding is that you must meet 62133 when shipping batteries separate or as spare parts. If they are shipped in the device then it is not required, like you said they already do battery testing in the device. That was 4 or 5 years ago, things may have changed.
From: Dan Roman, N.C.E. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] Decision IECEE-ACAG/1398/PDSH (Batteries) Is anyone on the list familiar with the subject decision? It covers lithium, NiCd, and NiMH cells and packs and application of IEC 62133. I was able to find a clarification document http://www.iecee.org/whatsnew/PDF/cmc1232inf.pdf but not the original decision. I am being told by a test house that a battery cell/pack used in a product must have a test report against IEC 62133 in order for a CB Report/Certificate to be issued for the end-product. That's who I got the link to the clarification document from. It appears that standards covered by TC108 are exempted from the decision because TC108 says IEC 62133 is not referenced by 60065, 60950, etc. Other IEC standards that do not fall under TC108 do not reference IEC 62133 standard either (and there are a lot of them), but they were not exempted? This does not make much sense to me. Is this decision a mandatory and universal requirement for all products that utilize one of the covered battery technologies except if the standard is under the umbrella of TC108 or is the interpretation all wrong? Follow-on questions: I am concerned about an IECEE decision like this and even more concerned about IECEE decisions that affect standards I use that I am not aware of (yet). Can anyone shed light on this process in the CB Scheme? Are the decisions publicly available and are they searchable by standard affected or exempted or by TC? I have not come across a situation like this before. I understand the requirements for components in a product to meet their respective component standards or require additional testing. The product standards I use have their own battery testing requirements. Does this decision essentially overrule the product standard and force the battery component standard to be used (only)? Thanks! -- Dan Roman, N.C.E. VP Communications Services IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society mailto:[email protected] http://www.ieee-pses.org<http://www.ieee-pses.org/> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
