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Use of a critical component that has not been evaluated by a third party indicates that your company has the infrastructure and expertise to perform said evaluation- Type Tests per standard and AQL on subsequent shipments. This is difficult to do in North America due to tracibility and registration regulations for NRTL/SCC/NOM process. Control of components critical to compliance (EMC/safety/RoHS/MC/etc) must be institutional. That is, the corporation shall have a formal process for evaluation, testing, approval, and substitution, of not only these components (by model), but also controls the source of components via an approved vendor list. Cannot comment on component requirements in the various standards - used over 200 different standards during 2013, and am not an expert on any of them; but will say that IEC61010-1 fig 15 does not make me warm and fuzzy; but it is a framework for a place to start. CB report that says a Notified Body indicates the use of a particular component is wonderful can have limited efficacy. Which leads to my rant: Advice to NRTLs, SCCs, and Notified Bodies for 2014 from a component and end-use equipment mfr: 1. Do not ignore my Conditions of Acceptability in the component's CBTR because the report was originated by another agency. 2. Do not ignore my Installation Instructions because you are 'The Man'. 3. Do not ignore ratings or warnings on equipment labels. Do not re-test to assume a 'reasonable' rating because you know better; you do not know better - just do not do it. 4. And never ignore direct advice from the mfr's compliance engineer. Respectfully, Brian -----Original Message----- From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 7:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] EN 61010 and (un) safe components Best friends and collegues I have always carried out Electrical Safety tests as evaluating and testing of an apparatus based on the use of exclusively safe components, and I have always required suitable documentation to provide proof of that. This documentation may range from a catalogue page showing an agency logo and a specified standard to (in Europe) a DoC to the LVD only. In addition I inspect the component for type and imprinted safety marks. Recently I got involved in a equipment where some of the components do not show any proof of compliance at all, and some have been NB tested to comply with the ATEX directive. (the LVD excludes ATEX ). EN 61010-1 allows for the use of “untested” components if they show up to comply with the equipment standards EN 61010. Now I am curious to what extent, and what method you are using to show their safe use –tested to EN 61010- in a piece of equipment, and what is your opinion about the involvement of IEC component standards in a standard safety test. Reference: EN 61010-1:2010 Figure 15 Flow chart option b) c) I believe similar clauses exist in other safety standards, so please do not feel excluded because EN 6101 is not your specialty…. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
