On 15 Jul 2014, at 21:10, John Woodgate <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <362333c8-bb29-4fd9-baba-3282cebc9...@conformance.co.uk>, dated 
> Tue, 15 Jul 2014, Nick Williams <nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk> writes:
> 
>> There is nothing in the Machinery Directive which, as you put, it 
>> "recognizes certain product types as having, or being likely to have, a 
>> safety standard that addresses the same issues as the MD does, and thus do 
>> not need to have the MD applied”. There is a very strictly defined exclusion 
>> relating to certain products which are covered by the LVD, but the presence 
>> or absence of standards has nothing to do with whether or not a manufacturer 
>> applies that exclusion.
> 
> As far as I am concerned, that is a debating point and I have made no error.

Well, we will have to agree to differ then.


> The LVD, whether it should or not, does not cover mechanical hazards due to 
> the equipment itself. See Annex I, clause 2.

Veering off topic, but if this is the case then what is Annex I clause 2 item c 
referring to then?


> However, most if not all standards notified under the LVD, and all of those 
> applying to the cited exclusions in  Article 2 (k) of the MD, do cover such 
> mechanical hazards (at least I suppose the electric motor standard does: I 
> haven't seen it).

EN 60034 does not contain any provisions for mechanical safety. 

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