So if my employer who is not CA based but does have other direct employees in 
CA, sends me to CA for a few days to work, they have to take out the CA income 
tax too?

Seems like CA has put up a big closed for business sign.
-Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Javor [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] Caution to those who live outside of California and got 
there on business!!! (Don't)

Doug,

Thank you so much for pointing this out.  I have many CA customers, but luckily 
to date it has all been remote.

Rest assured that in the future it will stay that way!

Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261


> From: Doug Smith <[email protected]>
> Organization: D. C. Smith Consultants
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:37:05 -0700
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: [PSES] Caution to those who live outside of California and 
> got there on business!!! (Don't)
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Just a note to those of you, especially consultants, but potentially 
> anyone who visits California, even for a day, on business.
> 
> CA has new rules that require companies there (they don't all know 
> about it yet but will be in trouble after the first of the year if 
> they don't) to withhold CA income tax from payments made to people 
> from out of state if any of the work was done in CA.
> 
> You need to fill out a tax form for every job/trip! It is "California 
> Form 587, Nonresident Withholding Allocation Worksheet." In my case 
> the client ignored the form and sent the maximum 7% of the gross 
> proceeds in to CA.
> 
> The company for whom you do work is required to deduct 7% from the 
> gross payment to you, no allowance for expenses or, at least for the 
> last job I did, the fact the job required 3 days in NV and two in CA. 
> They took out 7% and sent it to the CA state government.
> 
> The accounting for this is going to be tricky as you have to keep 
> track and justify how much of the work was in CA and how much 
> elsewhere. In the end, CA may extract up to 10% of your payment, 13% 
> if you are really well off. I suspect the accounting and submitting 
> tax forms will cost as much as the tax, or more.
> 
> So starting now I am dividing my fee by 0.93 to cover the tax and 
> probably need to at least double that to cover my time and the 
> accountants time to keep track of all of this. I am thinking along the 
> lines of $500/day additional to CA companies until I get a better idea 
> of what this is going to cost.
> 
> Although we don't have an income tax in NV they get it in other ways, 
> such as $2000/year from me for a special rental car tax meant to hit 
> tourists, as well as other taxes. I you come in from Massachusetts, 
> for instance, you will be required to pay MA and CA income taxes! That 
> plus Federal will be over 50% for most engineers (CA is 10% at $44,000 
> per year).
> 
> I am interested to find out if I am the first person to run into this.
> If you go into CA for work purposes you will be hit for this. I plan 
> to ask the CA tax people which precinct they are going to allow me to vote in.
> 
> Doug
> 
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