Ok, thanks. Can conclude that no changes EEE mark, and the bar thickness for 'historical' delimiter remains at 30% bin dimension.
Geez, was getting ready to get irate over yet another label change. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Sykes, William (Contractor) [mailto:william.sy...@stryker.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 2:18 PM To: Brian Oconnell; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Crossed-out wheeled bin symbol The bar underneath the wheeled bin is still required - it is used to indicate that the product was placed on the market after 13 August 2005. WEEE recast Directive 2012/19/EU Article 14 'Information for users' clause 4 states, in part: "4. With a view to minimising the disposal of WEEE as unsorted municipal waste and to facilitating its separate collection, Member States shall ensure that producers appropriately mark - preferably in accordance with the European standard EN 50419 (1) - EEE placed on the market with the symbol shown in Annex IX. In exceptional cases, where this is necessary because of the size or the function of the product, the symbol shall be printed on the packaging, on the instructions for use and on the warranty of the EEE. In addition, Directive 2012/19/EU Article 15 'Information for treatment facilities' clause 2 states: 2. In order to enable the date upon which the EEE was placed on the market to be determined unequivocally, Member States shall ensure that a mark on the EEE specifies that the latter was placed on the market after 13 August 2005. Preferably, the European Standard EN 50419 shall be applied for this purpose. EN 50419:2005 states: 4.2 Design of the marking The additional marking referred to in 4.1 b) 2) shall consist of a solid bar, the height of which equals h and the width of which equals 1,2 a. The height (h) of the bar shall be the greater of 0,3 a or 1 mm. The bar shall only be used in conjunction with the crossed-out wheeled bin. The bar shall not contain any text or any kind of additional information. The dimensional relationship shown in Figure 1 shall be maintained. William T. (Tom) Sykes -----Original Message----- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Crossed-out wheeled bin symbol Am confused over this. Cannot determine if thin line is a PDF 'artifact', or if that is the new image for the EEE mark. The HTML files for the directive links to a blank image: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/resource.html?uri=CELEX:32012L0019.ENG.xhtml.L_2012197EN.01006602.tif.jpg Anyone have a better source? Brian From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Crossed-out wheeled bin symbol Hi Scott, If you look at the Recast WEEE directive 2012/19/EU annex IX, you will see that the crossed-out wheeled bin symbol does not have a black bar below the symbol. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:197:0038:0071:EN:PDF Note: If you look at the WEEE directive in a PDF provided by Europa, you will see that they put a small thin horizontal line at the end of the main directive and at the end of each annex. For annex IX, the crossed-out wheeled bin symbol is at the end of the annex, but the symbol uses bold lines. The later small thin horizontal line marking the end of the annex should not be confused as being a part of the crossed-out wheeled bin symbol. Monrad Note: The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of any company I work for. On 9/12/2014 9:52 AM, Scott Xe wrote: Dear All, I have learnt that in near future, the black bar below the crossed-out wheeled bin symbol will be removed similar to the one used in battery directive. Have anyone heard the same? Thanks and regards, Scott On 12 Sep, 2014, at 10:56 pm, Denis Ryskamp <denis_rysk...@trimble.com> wrote: Gary: Needed: 1) A unique identification of the producer (Brand name, registration number,...) 2) The crossed-out wheeled bin in accordance with Directive 3) Put on market after 13 august 2005 shall be identified by at least one of the following: a) Date of manufacture/put on market, in uncoded text per ISO 8601 or other coded text, for which the code shall be made available for treatment facilities. b) Additional mark used in conjunction with the crossed-out wheeled bin (underline) The directive has the dimensional proportions. Height of the bin itself is 4mm minimum. The crossed out wheeled bin symbol to be displayed in a visible, legible and indelible form on the product itself, near Producer ID, except for in exceptional cases where this is not possible because of the size or function of the product. If the symbol cannot be applied to the product due to product size or function, then the marking shall be printed on the packaging, in the instructions for use, and in the warranty. The directive has the dimensional proportions. Height of the bin itself is 4mm minimum. From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 10:30 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Visible - legible Does anyone have a standards definition of visible - legible? In this particular instance it's for the WEEE symbol for an ITE product. I don't see a reference to the definition here. Anybody else? Is it a fixed height say 4mm, or is there some reference to readable from 1 meter (another non-definition because readable isn't defined), Gary McInturff Reliability/Compliance Engineer Esterline Interface Technologies Featuring ADVANCED INPUT, GAMESMAN, and LRE MEDICAL products 600 W. 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