Hi All,

I reported on the grow light issue some months ago.

http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4438864/How-cops-are-finding--grow-ops--with-AM-radios
 
<http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4438864/How-cops-are-finding--grow-ops--with-AM-radios>

Cheers, Ken

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> On Oct 15, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Sundstrom, Mike <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> Some of the lamps have a warning to not use at USCG radio sites.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Michael Sundstrom
> Garmin Compliance Engineer
> 2-2606
> (913) 440-1540
> KB5UKT
>  
> “Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish 
> it.
> The time will pass anyway.”
> Earl Nightingale
>  
> From: Ed Price [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:21 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, 
> etc,) Where?
>  
> The ARRL (American Radio Relay League, the US national ham radio club) has 
> its own shielded enclosure  and EMI lab. They have recently tested 
> agricultural "grow lights" and have found almost every sample exceeds CE 
> limits (some by almost 60 dB). After no success in solving this condition 
> with the manufacturers, the ARRL has submitted their data to the FCC and 
> asked for recalls of the offending models. Hams also report problems with the 
> switching power supplies associated with commercial LED light bulbs.
>  
> It will be interesting to see how the FCC reacts to a request to recall large 
> volumes of consumer products; as far as I know, the last time the FCC was 
> faced with controlling a large and uncaring market was back in the CB radio 
> era of the 1970’s, and that didn’t work out very well at all.
>  
> Ed Price
> WB6WSN
> Chula Vista, CA USA
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CR [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:27 AM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, 
> etc,) Where?
>  
> On 10/14/2015 10:25 PM, Ted Eckert wrote:
> > 
> > It is fairly common to run into issues where one product causes
> > interference where it shouldn’t.
> > 
> > http://www.compliance-club.com/archive/old_archive/Bananaskins.htm 
> > <http://www.compliance-club.com/archive/old_archive/Bananaskins.htm>
> > 
>  
> Do note that the archive only covers up to 2004.  I've had occasion to cite 
> entry 3.
>  
> I suspect the relative scarcity of reported problems may be ascribed to 
> proactive standards that are revised when the need becomes evident; one 
> reason I got a contract in 2004 -- and why it was extended.
>  
> Those of us who are Amateur Radio operators will have perhaps gotten involved 
> in the myriad issues of new technology versus existing. I filed comments in 
> the FCC's rulemaking on  BPL (UK:PLT/PLC), which agency in the past has acted 
> as if it had gotten orders to ignore some kinds of complaints -- a 
> non-technical issue, eh?
>  
> Some complaints answer the "why margin?" question, if possibly for a 
> different reason than why we sometimes want it.
>  
> About 15 years ago, residents of a New Jersey neighborhood started 
> complaining about hearing a local AM station (really local: 10KW in the 
> middle of the development) on their answering machines and telephones.The odd 
> thing was that this  apparently coincided with its switch from  an "Easy 
> Listening" music format to Korean language evangelism (I suspect a power 
> increase as well).  In any case, when the customer ordered equipment for that 
> neighborhood he could (and IMO
> should) have considered proximity of pole-mounted power and other wiring to a 
> high power RF source not anticipated by standards-writers.
>  
> Cortland Richmond
>  
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