Brian, Agreed - the service capabilities (OATS, chamber, process automation) vary from lab to lab and prices could vary even within the same city/state. For instance, I've used a northeast US based OATS lab at $1.6K/ day rate and same lab has a semi-anechoic chamber at a $2K/half-day rate. Our www.telcron.net once had a one-stop lab pricing tool for EMI/EMC pre-testing. It takes time to get all labs onboard but we'll keep updating it based on what's available. Bayo
On Friday, November 13, 2015 8:13 AM, "Kunde, Brian" <brian_ku...@lecotc.com> wrote: #yiv4765514013 #yiv4765514013 -- _filtered #yiv4765514013 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4765514013 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4765514013 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4765514013 {panose-1:2 15 3 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv4765514013 #yiv4765514013 p.yiv4765514013MsoNormal, #yiv4765514013 li.yiv4765514013MsoNormal, #yiv4765514013 div.yiv4765514013MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv4765514013 h5 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;}#yiv4765514013 a:link, #yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4765514013 a:visited, #yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4765514013 p {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4765514013 p.yiv4765514013MsoAcetate, #yiv4765514013 li.yiv4765514013MsoAcetate, #yiv4765514013 div.yiv4765514013MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013Heading5Char {color:#2E74B5;}#yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013EmailStyle19 {color:windowtext;}#yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013EmailStyle20 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013EmailStyle21 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013EmailStyle23 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv4765514013 span.yiv4765514013BalloonTextChar {}#yiv4765514013 .yiv4765514013MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv4765514013 {margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt;}#yiv4765514013 div.yiv4765514013WordSection1 {}#yiv4765514013 Ian, Out of curiosity, does this UK lab do compliance testing on a 10 meter OATS or SAC? In our area, testing at an OATS is much cheaper but it takes longer. This brings up a good point. In addition to cost, one must consider the type of test facility and if they meet your needs. You would expect to pay more for a 10 meter test site over a 3 meter site (pre-compliance?). If you are just performing a single scan an OATS might be cheaper, but if you are troubleshooting the extra cost of a SAC would be money well spent since you can run a scan in only a few minutes. There are many other factors as well. The size of the turntable; in case you have a large EUT or setup. How much weight can it handle? What kind of power they have? 50hz and 60hz? Can they provide water or compressed air (or other gases) for the EUT? Can they handle heavy floor mounted machines or EE? What all EMC test can be performed and at what power levels? It would be nice if there was a single source such as a website that would provide a lot of this kind of information. The EMC Lab listing published in the latest issue of Interference Technology comes pretty close to this. Check it out. The Other Brian From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 6:40 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Rental costs for 1 day in shielded room Hello Amund; I’m a regular customer with a UKAS accredited UK EMC lab and pay £750 per day including EMC engineer. In the UK, I believe £1000 per day + test technician would be a reasonable charge. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 12 November 2015 13:56 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Rental costs for 1 day in shielded room Amund, I think the price you listed for Norway is about average. We are not a commercial EMC lab but a corporate lab who on occasion does outside work for companies in our area. An advantage we have is since we always have internal work to do we can charge our outside work by the hour. So if one of our customers need a couple hours of testing they don’t have to pay for an entire shift. And testing other company’s products makes life more interesting for us. We charge a flat rate of $300USD per hour for any EMC testing done at our lab either in the 10M SAC or in the EMC Lab itself; and we do all the testing and report writing. We have report writing software so you walk away with your report or we can email it to you. So a full 8 hour shift would be $2400USD. We are in the US Midwest (SW Michigan) and I understand that our prices are about the going rate for this area. I’ve been told that East and West coast labs charge a bit more. EMC labs have become quite competitive these days so I don’t think you’ll see a whole lot of difference in price. I think other factors become more important like a lab’s ability to produce reliable and repeatable data and the speed in which they can do such testing. It’s not that unlike finding a good doctor or dentist that you like. And don’t necessary believe a lab salesmen tells you. Some have become like used car salesmen. So shop around; kick the tires. Take one out for a test drive and see if you like it. Good luck. The Other Brian From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:38 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Rental costs for 1 day in shielded room I am a bit curious about the rental price for one day in a shielded room (3m/10m semi-anechoic chamber). What are the prices around in EU and US? Here in the Oslo area (Norway), we pay about NOK 25.000 (ex.vat) for one day including lab engineer. Same price for radiated emission and radiated immunity. 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