It may be too late for this now, but you could have submitted to IEC 62368-1 instead, pointing to the section in 4.1.1 that states that components that comply with IEC 60950-1 or IEC 60065 are acceptable without further evaluation other than to give consideration to the appropriate use of the component or sub-assembly in the end-product.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:30 AM, John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com> wrote: > There are differences, but I suppose citing Guide 112 would deal with that. > > With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only > www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen > [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:47 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Power Supply Safety approval > > I think the answer to your question is the difference in product standards > between your product and the power supply. > A example: the 60950 power supply does not necessarily meet insulation > requirements (among other requirements) of the 60065. > The 60950 compatible PSU normally relies on Basic Insulation and Protective > Earthing of the secondary voltage, where your product may have a different > configuration. > CB documentation does not often list the insulation properties > Basic/Double/Reinforced. This may have been a reason for further > investigation. > > If all this information seems available, ask them for the exact reason of > investigation, if other than boosting turnover. > > Regards, > > Ing. Gert Gremmen > Approvals manager > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > + ce marking of electrical/electronic equipment Independent Consultancy > + Services Compliance Testing and Design for CE marking > according to EC-directives: > - Electro Magnetic Compatibility 2004/108/EC > - Electrical Safety 2006/95/EC > - Medical Devices 93/42/EC > - Radio & Telecommunication Terminal Equipment 99/5/EC > + Improvement of Product Quality and Reliability testing Education > > Web: www.cetest.nl (English) > Phone : +31 10 415 24 26 > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information that is > confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are > intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. > Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, > total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) > by > persons other than the designated > recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the > material from any computer. > Thank you for your co-operation. > > From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] > Sent: Wednesday 15 June 2016 13:29 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Power Supply Safety approval > > Dear colleagues. > > I have submitted a product for CB certification to IEC/EN/UL 60065. > The product is powered from a 12V dc wall wart purchased from an external > supplier. The power supply is fully CB approved to IEC/EN/UL 60950 and > operated well within its ratings. > I submitted the CB documentation for the power supply along with the > product > to the safety testing agency. > I am surprised that the testing agency decided to dismantle the power > supply > and thoroughly evaluate it even though it is already pre-approved. > Is this usual and if so why bother with a pre-approved power supply if you > are going to be paying for it to be tested along with your product? > > Your knowledge and experience would be appreciated. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Ian McBurney > Design & Compliance Engineer. > > Allen & Heath Ltd. > Kernick Industrial Estate, > Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK > T: 01326 372070 > E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com > > > Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company > number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the > individual and not necessarily those of the company. > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on > the > web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in > well-used formats), large files, etc. > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > <emc-p...@ieee.org> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in > well-used formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < > emc-p...@ieee.org> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in > well-used formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> > -- Scott Aldous Regulatory Compliance Program Manager Google 650-253-1994 scottald...@google.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
