Everything I have bought from EVS has been in English (or maybe both). From: Dan Roman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM
Thanks to everyone who responded both to the list and directly. I looked at several IEC standards and they were the same price on evs.ee as the IEC store. The ENs were priced much lower but the amendment I was looking for was not available and the ENs of the other IEC standards were translated to Estonian at the nice price. Since I can’t read Estonian even free would not be of much help. I guess if I want to avoid DRM I can purchase from evs.ee for twice the price of a single copy. Networkable copy from the IEC is not twice the price, they use a sliding scale, but not sure what kind of DRM they use. What a bother. ______________________________________________________ Dan Roman, N.C.E. Senior Member IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society mailto:[email protected] From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM I buy whatever I can from https://www.evs.ee/shop , 2 licenses so PDF is not locked and is allowed t be put on server. I bought a PDF recently from NFPA and it was not locked, only watermarked. On occasion I have scanned hardcopy to PDF, then run the OCR scanner on it to make it searchable. From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:59 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM It depends very much on who publishes the standards. For example, many European and IEC standards can be obtained from the Estonian Standards body in English at attractive prices and a choice of means of delivery. https://www.evs.ee/shop ITU and ETSI standards are downloadable and free. Any standards publisher that makes it difficult to use their standards qualifies for a Darwin Award. How stupid can you get? (We don't know, we aren't extinct yet.) It's obviously possible to scan even a very large hard-copy document if you have access to an automatic scanner. Or you can scan bits of it, as and when you need to. Legal issues, yes, but that's because the law is based on what King Henry VIII's lawyers thought was a good idea. Will anyone find out? Since everyone knows that micro-scale copyright violation for personal (even if job-related) purposes is endemic and uncontrollable, it seems unlikely. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk<http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England We live in exiting times From: Dan Roman, N.C.E. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:25 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM All, The topic of where to buy standards comes up every once in a while on this list and usually is based on price or licensing type requirements. I understand that DRM is a necessary evil these days but I am looking for a vendor of standards that does not require that software be installed in order to protect their standards licensing. The IT Department where I work is very oppressive and refused to install the DRM software for me to use the last standard I purchased. The vendor would not issue a refund but instead sent me a paper copy. They previously provided PDFs that I could read but only print one copy of, but they changed their DRM scheme so I can't use them any longer. I like having a searchable PDF. Any suggestions before I randomly start inquiring with the helpdesks at various standards vendors? -- Dan Roman, N.C.E. Senior Member, IEEE IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society mailto:[email protected] http://www.ieee-pses.org<http://www.ieee-pses.org/> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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