Consider the profound question, 'How do we get there from here?'. Taking into account how long it took to produce 62386-1 from two former standards ('how long' is indeterminate, because it’s still being improved), how long would it take to turn the 111 standards in 60335 into one? Answer in centuries, please, to one dismal place.
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Is there a homeopathic remedy for excessive gullibility? -----Original Message----- From: Ralph McDiarmid [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:33 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Applicable standards for hoverboard in EU I agree with Rich that is one of the problems, and I would add that it is the main problem with the proliferation of product-specific standards. If the principles of product safety (shock, energy, mechanical, chemical) are universal, then it should be possible to write 2 or 3 generic product safety standards covering a wide variety of electrical equipment. Or, product-specific standards could make (or should have made) extensive use of a reference document, as does IEC62040-1 for example. In that example, 60950-1 is the "RD". Thoughts? Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 4:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Applicable standards for hoverboard in EU In electrical part and charger, should we apply EN 60204-1 or EN 60950-1 and EN 60335-2-29 or EN 61558-2-6? This is one of the problems of product-specific safety standards. In 1961, James J. Gibson postulated that injury was due to an energy source impinging on a body part. We wouldn’t have this problem if our standards were based on energy sources such as electrically-caused thermal energy and resulting fire. Rich ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. ______________________________________________________________________ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> ________________________________ This message was scanned by Exchange Online Protection Services. ________________________________ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>