Consider the profound question, 'How do we get there from here?'.  Taking into 
account how long it took to produce 62386-1 from two former standards ('how 
long' is indeterminate, because it’s still being improved), how long would it 
take to turn the 111 standards in 60335 into one? Answer in centuries, please, 
to one dismal place.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph McDiarmid [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:33 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Applicable standards for hoverboard in EU

I agree with Rich that is one of the problems, and I would add that it is the 
main problem with the proliferation of product-specific standards.

If the principles of product safety (shock, energy, mechanical, chemical) are 
universal, then it should be possible to write 2 or 3 generic product safety 
standards covering a wide variety of electrical equipment.  Or, 
product-specific standards could make (or should have made) extensive use of a 
reference document, as does IEC62040-1 for example.  In that example, 60950-1 
is the "RD".

Thoughts?


Ralph McDiarmid
Product Compliance
Engineering
Solar Business
Schneider Electric


From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 4:26 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Applicable standards for hoverboard in EU


In electrical part and charger, should we apply EN 60204-1 or EN 60950-1 and EN 
60335-2-29 or EN 61558-2-6?

This is one of the problems of product-specific safety standards.

In 1961, James J. Gibson postulated that injury was due to an energy source 
impinging on a body part.  We wouldn’t have this problem if our standards were 
based on energy sources such as electrically-caused thermal energy and 
resulting fire.


Rich





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