I ran into this a couple years ago when a customer of my employer was having 
trouble with EMI testing of a product we manufactured.  Their cables did not 
have the external shield on the HDMI cable bonded to the connector.  A little 
copper tape proved the source of the problem.

 

Now, for a kicker…  The HDMI committee specification for the cables does not 
address termination of the outer shield of the cable.  These faulty (from an 
EMC perspective) cables were entirely compliant with the HDMI cable 
specification.  The customer went to a local computer store and bought a 
selection of cables.  Some had the outer shield terminated properly (from an 
EMC perspective) and some did not.  Price was no indicator of the termination 
status of the shield.  I pushed back through our product team, but as of when I 
retired in June of last year I had heard of no resolution to this issue.

 

Buyer beware…

 

Ghery S. Pettit, NCE

Pettit EMC Consulting LLC

[email protected]

 

 

From: Ken Wyatt [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] HDMI questions

 

I’d like to reinforce James’ point on the poor shield bonding on many mid- to 
low-priced HDMI cables. Usually. it’s just a 1” pigtail, which can easily cause 
EMI failures. Because brands and cable models come and go, I always suggest 
clients buy at least two of everything and cut one apart to physically inspect 
the shield termination.

 

Ken


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On Oct 24, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Pawson, James <[email protected]> wrote:

 

Ah, hello 742.5MHz my old friend.

 

Alfred’s analysis in his email is good especially regarding frame rate. If you 
look in the 1.4 HDMI standard in section 5.1.2 you can see that the “vertical 
blanking” period consists of 45 lines. A breakdown of what’s contained within 
follows below that section. You can conduct further analysis of this period by 
using an FFT function on a high bandwidth digital scope (although you may 
struggle with the lower number of samples available in this target block) to 
narrow in on which part of the signal is causing you issues.

 

As for the frequency:

 

1080p/50Hz resolution uses a clock frequency of 148.5MHz. The three data pairs 
frequency is 5 x f_clk = 742.5MHz. Expect to see multiples of the clock at 
445.5, 594 and 891MHz and plenty of emissions above 1GHz at 1485, 2227.5, 
2970MHz, etc.

1080i/50Hz and 720p/50Hz resolution uses clock of 74.25MHz and data of 371.25 
MHz

 

It is this data fundamental that causes many of the radiated emissions problems 
associated with HDMI.

 

This can be caused by poor signal integrity, mainly uneven tr/tf within each 
half of the differential pair. Possible solutions involve playing around with 
the pre-emphasis and drive strength register settings within the silicon, 
remembering to verify the signal integrity if you’ve found a combination that 
seems to work.

 

Inline common mode chokes sometimes help at frequencies above 1GHz but more 
often not at these “lower” frequencies in the HDMI interface.

 

Your best bet is carefully selecting a HDMI cable that has good shielding 
termination between cable screen and backshell. This is mostly a case of trial 
and error when purchasing from catalogs (forget eBay or Amazon here) or working 
with the cable vendor (e.g. Molex, Amphenol, Palpilot – other reputable cable 
vendors are available) to specify a decent quality cable. Cut open a $1 cable 
from Amazon and marvel at the internal construction!

 

I hope this helps,

Best of luck

James

 

 

From: Brent DeWitt [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 15 October 2016 23:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PSES] HDMI questions

 

I’ve been working with some Silicon Images (Lattice Semi) 9777 multiplexer 
chips lately and would appreciate any insight list members might have.  When 
used at any resolution below 4k, there seems to be a 10 dB emission “pedestal” 
that stands out of the baseline emission at several frequencies, 742 MHz in 
particular.  The pedestal is 666 usec long and repeats at whatever frame rate 
is selected.  At first, I thought it was correlated with the SPI bus activity, 
since the timing was identical, but further experiments show that not to be 
true.

 

My question is, is this inherent to HDMI, or to the 9777?  As is probably 
obvious, I don’t have a whole lot of experience with HDMI video.

 

Thanks all!

 

Brent DeWitt, AB1LF

Milford, MA

 


 
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