Stand-alone safe, if used as intended. Many consumer products may no longer be safe if used or stored outdoors. That too can be addressed with a label, but Marketing folks hate labels that can be seen.
Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric From: Richard Nute [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? Hi Jamison: Supposedly, only the safety instructions that are specified in the standard can be arbitrarily subject to “printed” versus “electronic” where the standard does not so specify. Many products today are “stand-alone” safe, where the safety is not dependent on installation or operation. (The computer you are using to read this e-mail is likely “stand-alone” safe.) In this case, no safety instructions are necessary. (The products I was associated with were of this construction; we had no requirements imposed upon us for manuals.) For permanently-wired equipment, a safety instruction label on the equipment should suffice. Where safe operation of the equipment is operator-dependent, a safety instruction label should suffice and will be better than an instruction manual, whether printed or electronic. Good luck, Rich From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:05 AM To: mailto:[email protected] Subject: [PSES] Paper Manuals? Good Morning, Has anyone had any success in getting standards writers and/or evaluation organizations to accept an electronic version of a manual as an equivalent alternative to a paper version even when the standard refers to a paper manual? I am getting mixed signals from various individuals within organizations and wanted to pool ask the group for any insight. I would think, particularly for equipment that is installed by trained professionals and not lay people, there might be an appetite for this sort of change. Thanks, Jamison - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <mailto:[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <mailto:[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <mailto:[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <mailto:[email protected]> David Heald <mailto:[email protected]> ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. ______________________________________________________________________ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <mailto:[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <mailto:[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <mailto:[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <mailto:[email protected]> David Heald <mailto:[email protected]> ________________________________ This message was scanned by Exchange Online Protection Services. ________________________________ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
