Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

[Doug Powell]

Ed, I've already been in that situation.   Not only was my email and computer hard drive searched under court order but also more than twenty notebooks of laboratory notes spanning several years. I gave more than 12 hours of deposition in a hostile interview setting with full court recording.  It was not fun. Nevertheless, I have no concerns about this forum, as evidenced by my placing this very email in the same archive.  And yes, many companies want old email deleted from servers and not archived. For all these reasons I will never put proprietary information in the public arena.  And besides, as a result of my time consulting, I am still in the confidentiality and non-disclosure period of several agreements.  Doug --  Douglas E Powell doug...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01  From: edpr...@cox.net Sent: November 22, 2016 7:23 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply-to: edpr...@cox.net Subject: Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server? Doug:   How would you feel if you knew that some law firm considering a lawsuit against your company, was searching for everything you might have said over the past 20 years, for evidence of utterances that might support their version of some item of contention? Or perhaps somebody was filing a complaint against your company, for reasons completely unrelated to you, but they searched for evidence of a “hostile corporate work environment” and found you making a joke about their purported sadness in 2007?   I could see that one bad experience like that might make corporate legal departments put a chill on all participation in openly searchable forums like EMC-PSTC.   I think what I’m saying is that I like the idea of my peers being able to search our archives, but beyond that, I see only liabilities.   Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA   From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:15 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?   I have watched this conversation for a few days and now I am beginning to wonder what is all the angst about.     I have been a member of the forum since about 1995 and the publically searchable archive is something I have used since the beginning. I find it very useful and have never assumed any level of privacy is expressed or implied. It is up to the individuals who make use of the forum to monitor their own privacy.  Spam is generally not a problem but has occurred on occasion. In those cases a gentle reminder followed by a reprimand from the admins has been enough.   In many ways this forum is patterned after the old BBSs or news groups (i.e. dejanews, yahoo groups) all of which were / are searchable.    Best, Doug     --    Douglas E Powell   doug...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01    From: d...@mac.com Sent: November 22, 2016 2:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply-to: d...@mac.com Subject: Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?   My policy has always been to never put anything in an email that I wouldn’t want to see on the front page of the newspaper. It’s served me pretty well so far…   -- Doug Nix d...@mac.com   When you put a thing in order, and give it a name, and you are all in accord, it becomes.   From the Navajo, Masked Gods, Waters, 1950    On 22-Nov-16, at 15:24, dward <dw...@pctestlab.com> wrote:   Or say what you mean and don’t say it if you are afraid you will be embarrassed by it.   ​​​​​ Dennis Ward This communication and its attachements contain information from PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, Inc., and is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient(s) named above.  It may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged.  Any unauthorized use that may compromise that confidentiality via distribution or disclosure is prohibited.  Please notify the sender immediately if you receive this communication in error, and delete it from your computer system.  Usage of PCTEST email addresses for non-business related activities is strictly prohibited.  No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachments(s) are free from computer virus or other defect.  Thank you.   From: Pete Perkins [mailto:00000061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:47 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?   Dan et al,                    I hope that everyone realizes that in this day of wikileaks that no electronic correspondence is private anymore, whether or not you intend it to be.                                    In this case we see clearly that the messages are archived and searchable – altho some may not have realized that prior to this time.                     Watch what you say – John Woodgate can supply the Latin phrase.     :>)     br,      Pete   Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe  97281-3427   503/452-1201   p.perk...@ieee.org   From: Dan Roman [mailto:danp...@verizon.net]  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:34 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?   See the footer attached to every message:   All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html       -- Dan Roman dan.ro...@ieee.org     -------- Original message -------- From: "Kortas, Jamison" <jamison.kor...@ecolab.com>  Date: 11/21/16 1:43 PM (GMT-06:00)  To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  Subject: [PSES] Public view of this email server?  Hi All,   Maybe I am the only one who didn’t know this, but I found a thread in which I had I participated in a Google search. I did not know these emails were public in some way, at least enough to be found and indexed by Google.   Just an FYI.   The thread I found: https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/msg72464.html   -Jamison - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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