Excellent suggestion about the teardown sites!  I hadn’t thought of that.  The 
problem with FCC filings is there really aren’t any.  TVs are verification only 
devices.  There isn’t a reason for them to be posted to the FCC site (wish 
there was).



Good thoughts on the evolution of the display world.



One thing of particular note is the characteristics of 4k (or even 1080p) HDMI. 
 It has four high speed differential pairs (TMDS) that have specified 
transition times between 85 and 45 psec.  It takes only the slightest skew in 
this signal to create significant CM voltage on the system.  I’ve found any 
number of commercially available cables and couplers that blow through the 
emissions limits when used between an otherwise compliant source and sink.



From: Adam Dixon [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV?



In addition to the recommendations such as James', it may be worth some time 
looking at teardown videos (YouTube, iFixit, etc.) and FCC filings (the 
internal photos entry among all of the documents) to get an idea of 
construction.  You won't know if you get a similarly well-performing sample 
like James' or an out-of-spec dud when you make the purchase 
decision.....unless 17 other PSTC members recommend the same make/model. ;-)

Also, maybe a colleague on the list would have insight for the construction of 
medical class 4K displays versus consumer class in the event there are better 
regulatory margins that accompany the grayscale/color rendering performance 
requirements (whether implemented in hardware or firmware).

>From my experience, there has been a shift in the display industry when 
>looking at internal construction where ferrite beads, metal foil tapes, outer 
>metal chassis have disappeared and it's now an LCD panel with its own 
>regulatory behaviors and several PCBs (power supply, TCON, scaler, WiFi, etc.) 
>bolted on the back with a mix of flex and discrete wire harnesses....all 
>covered by a rear plastic cover.  Some of the shift is a function of moving 
>from CCFL to LED backlighting, some from having strictly digital I/O and 
>probably a few other factors like better PCB design/layout to ensure robust 
>high speed I/O performance.

And a last option depending on time/$$ for comparison testing may be to use a 
different display load (projector, HDMI extender, etc.) to understand the 
relative behaviors.



-Adam in Atlanta



On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:30 AM, Pawson, James <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi Brent,



I’ve had some success with a (now slightly old) Samsung 4k TV that wasn’t too 
noisy, model UE48JU7000T.



James







From: Brent DeWitt [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
]
Sent: 10 January 2017 01:57
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV?



Hi group,



Any suggestions on the best available 4k TV for emissions testing support?  We 
seem to be in a continuous churn of looking for good, commercially available, 
sources and sinks.  It would be a real plus if it also had ARC capability!



I’m also wondering if there would be much support for a WIKI site for the EMC 
community to post their findings on support devices.  Nothing proprietary, just 
measurements of “off the shelf” support equipment like TVs, monitors and 
sources.



Thanks all!



Brent DeWitt

Milford, MA




 
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