Because that is the ANSI requirement irrespective. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Javor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV? -ANSIC63.4
Why?? I get that on an OATS - there is no other room. But why in a SAC? Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: "Grasso, Charles" <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:03:20 +0000 > To: 'Ken Javor' <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Conversation: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV? -ANSIC63.4 > Subject: RE: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV? -ANSIC63.4 > > Hi Ken, > > If you are following ANSI C63.4 the then TV should be placed in the > same room as the device under test. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Javor [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV? > > If I am qualifying a device that connects through a cable to this TV, > but not the TV itself, why would it physically have to be part of the > set-up in the test chamber? Why could it not simply be support > equipment in an adjacent chamber, providing the proper interface at the end > of the cable? > > Ken Javor > Phone: (256) 650-5261 > > >> From: Doug Smith <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]> >> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:32:06 -0800 >> To: <[email protected]>, Ken Javor >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV? >> >> Hi Ken, >> >> Unless you are required to include a 4k TV or other device as part of >> your test setup! >> >> Doug >> >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:20:05 -0600, Ken Javor >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Not proffering a solution here, but the amount of traffic on this >> topic has >>> surprised me. Back in the day when most testing was on an OATS, I >>> would have understood the concerns expressed, but nowadays most >>> testing is performed in a SAC simulating an OATS. With the latter it >>> is simple to use any off-the-shelf device in an external chamber >>> just as the appropriate load interface for the test sample, and >>> provide filtering external to the chamber necessary to clean up any >>> emissions that could pollute the test chamber ambient. With a >>> shielded cable, it might be as simple as running it through a >>> stuffing tube and grounding out the rf current running external to >>> the shield. Or there could be a high quality shielded cable used in >>> the test chamber, which connects to a bulkhead-mounted and grounded >>> adapter, and external to the chamber, the noisy support equipment >>> and any crummy cable can be used. >>> >>> Lots of possible variations, but the point is that with a SAC, we >>> don't have to be near as picky about the support equipment. >>> >>> Ken Javor >>> Phone: (256) 650-5261 >>> >>> >>>> From: Ralph McDiarmid <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: Ralph McDiarmid <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:59:57 +0000 >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Conversation: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV? >>>> Subject: Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV? >>>>> I wonder if RF current on the coax coming in to the cable box >>> then radiates >>>> from the HDMI cable? All that overhead cable strung through >>>> residential neighborhoods must pick up a lot of RFI on its outer braid. >>>>> Ralph McDiarmid >>>> Product Compliance >>>> Solar Business >>>> Schneider Electric >>>>> - >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society >>>> emc-pstc discussion list. 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