Starting with an rf potential indicated on an EMI receiver, using the
stipulated mho/m antenna factor yields amps/meter.

Makes sense to me if the limit is in terms of amps per meter.

Ken Javor
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From: Ed Price <edpr...@cox.net>
Reply-To: Ed Price <edpr...@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 14:34:44 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Passive Loop Emissions [General Use]

Ralph:
 
I¹m afraid that your explanation didn¹t get through to me.
 
When I think of an electric field, I think of two voltage levels separated
by a distance, so Volts per meter seems very descriptive. For instance, two
plates, one meter apart, with one plate at 5 Volts and the other plate at 15
Volts, yields a field strength of 10 Volts per meter.
 
Going logarithmic is simply a convenience for thinking about widely
differing voltage levels, so again, very straight forward. Of course, you
have to set a reference foe the log scale, so Volts or microvolts are
equally valid.
 
OTOH, mho/cm for a field is pretty obscure to me. Who uses that metric, and
how? 
 
Ed Price
WB6WSN
Chula Vista, CA USA
 
It's about as obscure as using "dBuV/m" for field strength
 
Ralph McDiarmid
Product Compliance
Engineering
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From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net <mailto:edpr...@cox.net> ]
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Passive Loop Emissions [General Use]
 
Andrew:
 
I thought that S/m was a unit of electrical conductivity, defined as 0.01
mho/cm. This seems like a useless unit for magnetic field strength.
 
I did find one site:
 
http://www.mdltechnologies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6512-datasheet.p
df 
<http://www.mdltechnologies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6512-datasheet.
pdf> 
 
which provides a side-by-side chart for "dBS/m" and Electric Field Strength
in "dB/m". At 10 kHz, the antenna factor in db/m is about 86 dB, while the
antenna factor in dBS/m is about 35 dB.
 
This sounds like the old relationship of magnetic field strength, in dBuA/m,
to electric field strength, in dBuV/m, of 51.5 dB.
 
Ed Price
WB6WSN
Chula Vista, CA USA
 
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Hi All
 
I need some help in obtaining the correct result.
 
The customer has requested an extended magnetic field emission test over the
range 100kHz to 2MHz with a limit defined in dBpT.
The antenna to be used is an EMCO 6512 which has it correction factors
provided in dBS/m which the emission software used does not recognise.
So is there a conversion factor that enables the right correction factor to
be entered or is the conversion factor only used once a result is obtained??
 
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