Because terminology gets tossed around by different organizations, standards, 
directives, etc., without clear definition, let me see if I understand this 
correctly.

First of all, the FCC statement identifies a type of product; in this case 
"Test Equipment".  This can be anything that tests or measures something, 
right? From a free DMM from Harbor Freight to a million dollar Mass 
Spectrometer (and beyond), these are all considered test equipment.

The FCC also identifies three types of locations or environments; commercial, 
medical, and industrial.  There are many more; some are grouped within these 
three, some get lost in the miss-mash.  For instance, our company makes 
"Laboratory Equipment"; which is of course, equipment that is used in a 
laboratory environment where the employees are trained to work safety in an 
environment where added hazards are often present. A laboratory is usually part 
of or sets within  a commercial, medical, or industrial environment, but in 
rare occasions, a mass spectrometer might end up in a residential environment, 
such as Batman's cave. But don't worry about those 'rare' occasions because I'm 
sure Batman is breaking all kinds of zoning and safety laws.

The FCC is most concerned about the "Residential" environment. Most anything 
that could be used in this environment must comply with part 15 class B.  For 
instance, a Digital Multi-meter can be used almost anywhere, in any 
environment, including residential. So if your product can likely be used in 
residential areas, then it should be part 15 class B.

All-in-all you should consider that if you make something that is considered 
Electrical Equipment (EE), you should at least have it verified to meet the 
part 15 class A limits, so your product will play well with other EE. A quick 
verification test goes a long way in knowing if your product is going to cause 
trouble once in the field.  Also keep in mind that many safety standards 
require products to meet some kind of emissions and/or immunity tests, so look 
beyond just what the FCC is requiring.

I hope this was somewhat helpful.

The Other Brian

From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [BULK] Re: [PSES] FCC part 18
Importance: Low

Yes, I recall we have had this discussion before with the same answer.

-Dave

From: Bill Stumpf [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:16 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC part 18

Dieter,
The statement in 15.103 refers to Industrial test equipment, Commercial test 
equipment, and Medical test equipment.  I am confident of this because I sent 
the very same question in an inquiry to the FCC in November of 2015.

FCC inquiry response: "It is an exemption for demonstrating compliance for the 
digital logic contained in test equipment exclusively used in commercial, 
medical and industrial situations, not commercial equipment."

Bill Stumpf - Lab / Technical Manager
D.L.S. Electronic Systems, Inc.
166 South Carter Street
Genoa City WI 53128
Ph: 262-279-0210



From: Paasche, Dieter [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:50 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [PSES] FCC part 18

Dear group,

In FCC part 15.103 does the term "test equipment" refer to the medical 
equipment only or to the industrial and commercial equipment as well.

(c) A digital device used exclusively as industrial, commercial, or medical 
test equipment

Means if I have an industrial or commercial digital device (e.g cash register 
or industrial computer?) that is not for testing, would it have to comply with 
FCC part 15?.


Sincerely,

Dieter Paasche
Senior Product Developer, Electrical
CHRISTIE
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