Is it possible to use notch filters and measure rest of the frequencies?

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From: T.Sato [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 25 July 2017 17:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] application of CISPR 32 to EUTs with integrated radio 
transmitters

Hello members,

Thanks all who responded.

I hope CISPR makes this topic clear in near future.

Regards,
Tom

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Tomonori Sato  <[email protected]>
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 03:10:27 +0900,
  "T.Sato" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello members,
>
> I want to hear of your opinion - while emission measurement for CISPR 32, 
> integrated radio transmitters must transmitting?
>
>
> Although the standard is not clear whether radio transmitter can be set off 
> in emission measurement, I believed we can set radio transmitter off, as:
>
> - CISPR 32 said "The radiated emission requirements in this standard are not 
> intended to be applicable to the intentional transmissions from a radio 
> transmitter as defined by the ITU, nor to any spurious emissions related to 
> these intentional transmissions."
>
> - If non-transmitter function of the equipment (such as CPU clock and 
> harmonics) generates emissions in the frequency band of the intentional 
> transmission of the transmitter (such as 2.4 to 2.5 GHz), I think we should 
> apply the emission limits as the emissions are not related to the intentional 
> transmissions. However, it is difficult to measure such emissions in presence 
> of the intentional transmission.
>
> - The standard says "Compliance can be shown by measuring the EUT's emissions 
> when operating its functions simultaneously, individually in turn, or any 
> combination thereof." So, even if emissions from the transmitter function 
> must also be considered in the standard, it should permissible to test 
> non-transmitter function of the equipment while transmitter is set off.
>
> - Then, if the transmitter function of the equipment is tested while all the 
> other functions are set off, all the emissions measured are those caused by 
> the transmitter.
>
>
> However, I heard of strong opinions that the emission measurement must be run 
> while the integrated radio transmitter is transmitting, and all the emissions 
> in the frequency bands of intended transmissions and those harmonics should 
> be simply ignored.
>
>
> What do you think about this?
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
> --
> Tomonori Sato  <[email protected]>
> URL: http://t-sato.in.coocan.jp
>
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