Brian et al,

        Yes, I have struggled thru several document format changes and now keep 
all important docs in both their native format (eg docx today) as well as PDF.  
Not an absolute guarantee of compatibility but now there are a couple of 
starting points to work to recover documents.  Oh yes, I also have a scanner 
that will try to inhale and convert any paper to a coherent format.  

        BTW, I really enjoy the path's that these threads take - they have a 
life of their own.  

:>)     br,      Pete

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] power strip details -> electronic document preservation

Believe that preservation of legacy electronic documents is very important, and 
am happy to see someone attempting to preserve this stuff.

Please note that 'doc' and 'docx' are not usable standards (even where the 
OOXML is supposedly per the ISO29500 format) and is ill-suited for reliable 
backups and long-term archives. The originator of the standard chose to break 
the their promise of backward compatibility with ECMA376, so there is reason to 
distrust compatibility of files with future versions of whatever the document 
standard de jour would be. OOXML documents, even when displayed on similar 
platforms, are oft rendered differently.

Other more reliable and less volatile document standards should be 
investigated; for example ISO26300. The ISO and IEC do not seem to understand 
the significant risks of data loss where poor document standards are being used.

Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: mickm [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 1:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PSES] power strip details

Ralph,
     The IEEE is a not-for-profit organisation, but if there is a chance of 
making money they will do so. Traditionally you can still buy withdrawn 
standards.

     Having revised several old C62 standards the biggest problem I found is 
that the IEEE loses the source text or graphics or both in the passing years 
since the document was created. From these experiences I then under took a 
mission to grab what C62 materials the IEEE still had available and convert 
them into a Microsoft Word format. C62.41.1 was one document I rescued in 2008. 
Thus the Surge Protective Devices Committee (SPDC) does a Word document 
available that can be revised and it would be published as something like 
C62.4.1.1 2019.

     To your last question what does MSPD stand for, it's Multi-service Surge 
Protective Device, a device that internally houses a collection of power SPDs 
and signal SPDs all with a shared ground reference bond.

IEEE Std. C62.50-2012
multiservice (multiport) surge protective device (MSPD): A surge protective 
device providing protection of equipment connected to two or more services such 
as power, telecommunications, signaling, data, etc., with the respective 
conductors routed via a common enclosure in which an internal shared ground 
reference bond has been provided among these services during surge conditions.

Regards,

Mick Maytum

Safety and Telecom
Standards

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