As long as we’re all chiming in here that was my guess as well (probe ground lead parasitics) but I thought the ground rule :-) was no group replies...
Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Dale Reid <[email protected]> Reply-To: Dale Reid <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 20:38:56 -0500 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Measurement dilema How about the different size loops the ground leads on your probes are making. Dale Reid Product Safety Engineer O +1 859 825 4733 [email protected] <http://www.lexmark.com/> www.lexmark.com <http://www.lexmark.com> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Bart De Geeter <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Could it be that there is just a piece of transmission line > inside the box terminated with a certain impedance? You might be measuring in > the middle of this transmission line. > If the input impedance selected on channel A of your oscilloscope is f.e 50 > ohm and the other input channel has 1Mohm input impedance selected, you will > measure a different voltage at this particular point (as the measured signal > is the sum of the direct wave+ reflected wave on this transmission). > > So far, my guess 😉 > > Greetings, > Bart > > > Van: Doug Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Verzonden: vrijdag 26 januari 2018 23:50 > Aan: [email protected] > Onderwerp: [PSES] Measurement dilema > > > Hi All, > > Can you explain the result in this video I just made? Scope plots of the same > two nodes are completely different. Probes and scope are operating normally, > no problem with the equipment itself. > > If you have been to my seminars you know the answer, please do not post the > answer unless you have not seen this experiment until now. > > Hint 1: There are no EM fields radiating from the shielded box affecting the > probes. > Hint 2: There are no active components inside the box. > > https://youtu.be/qj-HBFMEJiY > > Doug > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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