These delays in updating the OJ list are very troublesome. Lawyers are
involved, which says it all. The 63044 series (and other new, not yet
listed standards) cannot be formally used to demonstrate conformity. A
possible solution is to ensure that the product passes the OJ listed
standard, cite it on the DoC and explain in addition in a Note to the
DoC that the new standard is also met. Of course, it might not be
possible to satisfy both standards, if they have 'absolutely
conflicting' requirements (what is explicitly mandatory in one is
explicitly prohibited in the other) but that is probably a rare case.
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2018-03-14 22:28, Kevin McCandless wrote:
Hello Experts,
I didn’t see my first request show up in my inbox. So I’m trying again…
A customer in Turkey has stated that the EN 50491-1 family of
HBES/BACS standards has been replaced by the EN 63044-1 family.
They want a DoC drafted with the new standards called out.
When I check the OJ for both EMCD and LVD, the EN 50491 standards are
shown as current with no DOW and the EN 63044 standards are not shown.
I also noticed that the OJ for EMCD is over 1.5 years old. And the LVD
is 6 months old.
So if this was a recent withdrawal, it won’t be in there.
Does anyone on this list have inside information about these two
product standards?
Our Turkey customers seem to be running all DoC’s through a consultant.
This is not the first time they have asked for a standard to be
removed or the issue date updated even though the current standard on
the DoC was still valid according to the OJ.
They seem to be the toughest EU member, that’s not actually a member.
Is presumption of conformity still valid if a DOW has past, but the OJ
still shows it as valid?
Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
Kevin McCandless
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