Hi John, I've learned the plan is to offer a fixed kit of software, custom low voltage (5Vdc) electronic controllers, OEM CAN/USB translator device, wiring harness and mounting hardware. The PC, VR hardware & wall wart will be specified but not provided. All very low power 5Vdc, no a.c. mains connection HW provided.
With this configuration none of the kit is (yet) tested for safety. Does EN 62368-1 include provisions for testing IR interfaces? I've read that LEDs have new requirements in 62368-1. (The joystick controllers use IR to communicate with the VR bits.) Thank you for the recommendations, Chet From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:13 PM To: Chester Summers <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] COTS system compliance Is this a 'one-off' - a unique assemblage, or a 'bespoke' assemblage where each one is different, according to buyers' requirements, or a 'catalogue item', where many identical assemblies are made and shipped? This matters, because the EMC Directive treats the three categories differently. The description fits EN 55032, and for immunity you should look now at EN 55035, not EN 55024. For safety, apply EN 62368-1. If each constituent product already complies with EN 60950-1 or EN 62368-1 and you just plug them together, you shouldn't need any more safety testing. If anything included uses 'wireless' (that magnetic induction or radio-frequency, but not infra-red) the RED applies to that product only. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.woodjohn.uk&d=DwMD-g&c=G4BpsyPyB19LB50bn2swXw&r=uQYjlohUH2VwYVcMCZDVOGnwYsWulCG18FqsT19OrFM&m=PpmGBGSuHo-PCTfLi4qy6Q4avJna1BXdwJFuO8CMEn8&s=ocrJyZPVxSHSRhKQKhQwE1-VQfpaNMepjjMxLIFkRr8&e=> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-03-30 18:27, Chester Summers wrote: Dear experts, Would a machine training simulator composed (primarily) of COTS video displays, PC, and VR headset be subject to EN 55032 & EN 55024, or is there another option? Would the generic standards route make more sense? The intended user environments are dealer training facilities and the occasional showroom floor (therefore expecting "Class B" emissions). Primary purpose of system is construction machinery training, not entertainment. I do not believe Machinery Directive applies here and wish to evaluate the system under EMCD and LVD. This seems reasonable in that the end hardware function is very similar to a video game platform, albeit with training software and slightly different controllers. What degree of product safety evaluation should I prepare for assuming I can get copies of CB certs for all purchased ITE/AV subassemblies? I'm anticipating a mixture of mostly EN 60950 and maybe EN 62368. I've not verified yet but have been assured all purchased subassemblies are either CSA or UL listed. Would a construction review be sufficient or is formal safety testing a must and should I involve a NRTL? 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