Hi John,

I've learned the plan is to offer a fixed kit of software, custom low voltage 
(5Vdc) electronic controllers, OEM CAN/USB translator device, wiring harness 
and mounting hardware.  The PC, VR hardware & wall wart will be specified but 
not provided.  All very low power 5Vdc, no a.c. mains connection HW provided.

With this configuration none of the kit is (yet) tested for safety.

Does EN 62368-1 include provisions for testing IR interfaces?  I've read that 
LEDs have new requirements in 62368-1.  (The joystick controllers use IR to 
communicate with the VR bits.)

Thank you for the recommendations,
Chet



From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:13 PM
To: Chester Summers <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] COTS system compliance

Is this a 'one-off' - a unique assemblage, or a 'bespoke' assemblage where each 
one is different, according to buyers' requirements, or a 'catalogue item', 
where many identical assemblies are made and shipped? This matters, because the 
EMC Directive treats the three categories differently. The description fits EN 
55032, and for immunity you should look now at EN 55035, not EN 55024. For 
safety, apply EN 62368-1.

If each constituent product already complies with EN 60950-1 or EN 62368-1 and 
you just plug them together, you shouldn't need any more safety testing.

If anything included uses 'wireless' (that magnetic induction or 
radio-frequency, but not infra-red) the RED applies to that product only.


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On 2018-03-30 18:27, Chester Summers wrote:
Dear experts,

Would a machine training simulator composed (primarily) of COTS video displays, 
PC, and VR headset be subject to EN 55032 & EN 55024, or is there another 
option?  Would the generic standards route make more sense?
The intended user environments are dealer training facilities and the 
occasional showroom floor (therefore expecting "Class B" emissions).  Primary 
purpose of system is construction machinery training, not entertainment.  I do 
not believe Machinery Directive applies here and wish to evaluate the system 
under EMCD and LVD.  This seems reasonable in that the end hardware function is 
very similar to a video game platform, albeit with training software and 
slightly different controllers.

What degree of product safety evaluation should I prepare for assuming I can 
get copies of CB certs for all purchased ITE/AV subassemblies?  I'm 
anticipating a mixture of mostly EN 60950 and maybe EN 62368.  I've not 
verified yet but have been assured all purchased subassemblies are either CSA 
or UL listed.

Would a construction review be sufficient or is formal safety testing a must 
and should I involve a NRTL?  I don't have all the details of the power 
distribution network, but I believe it is not much more than a central plug 
strip/UPS and possibly power switched through the central PC.

Lastly, one possible sales option is "PC delete", where customer gets VR 
apparatus, software and controllers.  If the controllers happen to be wireless 
(e.g. joysticks, keyboards) does this software/controller bundle become subject 
to the RED?


Please feel free to contact me directly or reply to the group.

Kind regards,
Chet Summers
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