Native English speakers are involved, also costly language consultants. There is no excuse for bad wording but it's tolerated too much.

John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

On 2018-04-06 08:30, Michael Derby wrote:
Typically the Directives are written by people who don’t have English as their 
first language; and therefore their English is better than mine.

I tend to write with good and/or bad English at any time, without warning 
and/or prejudice.


Michael.



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
Sent: 05 April 2018 02:02
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] New Guide to the EMC Directive

'x and/or y' is and should be logically and grammatically represented as 'x, or 
y, or both' (note the comma is not used to separate dependent and independent 
clauses, but is a coordinating conjunctive between two independent clauses). 
The common interpretation of a logical exclusive-or conjunctive is not correct, 
as it would be 'x or y, but not both'.

The stuff here is written poorly, but seems to be correct:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And/or

Would be much simpler if we all spoke Klingon and the IEEE adopted the rituals 
of Kahless in their ethical code.

Brian

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:03 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] New Guide to the EMC Directive



“and/or”

Logically, a situation cannot be both “and” and “or.”  Nor can it be “and” or 
“or.”

The use of “and/or” means the authors could not decide which alternatives are 
required.  Poor use of the English language.

Rich
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