It’s easy to raise questions regarding results derived from data
without providing the technical detail and the arguments refuting the
original results. This technique needs to be rejected outright and
only pay attention to substantive arguments backed by data; the
complainer should start the argument with the folks who have published
their data and work to change their mind; then we will accept the new
limits announced by INCIRP.
:>) br, Pete
Peter E Perkins, PE
Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant
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*From:*John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2018 1:25 PM
*To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
*Subject:* Re: [PSES] [SPAM?] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure
Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID
The Wikipedia page repeats part of the Buss document, which cites no
figures, not even any verifiable evidence. The resulting Council
resolution, while recommending ALARA, is overall typically alarmist
and even anti-science in its approach. Let us all now don our tinfoil
hats.
The probity of ICNIRP can be investigated at:
https://www.icnirp.org/en/about-icnirp/funding-governance/index.html
It should be noted that IEEE concluded that recommended limits higher
than those of ICNIRP are acceptable.
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk>
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2018-04-05 20:35, gdstuyvenb...@yahoo.com
<mailto:gdstuyvenb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Respectfully acknowledged. However, the following needs to be taken into
consideration. With the advent of 5G, this becomes an increasingly urgent
issue that demands sorting out. (Alarm klaxons sounding) SPAM.........really?
*******
Despite or because of the wide use of ICNIRP guidance, it also encounters criticism.
The Council of Europe says: "it is most curious, to say the least, that the
applicable official threshold values for limiting the health impact of extremely low
frequency electromagnetic fields and high frequency waves were drawn up and proposed to
international political institutions (WHO, European Commission, governments) by the
ICNIRP, an NGO whose origin and structure are none too clear and which is furthermore
suspected of having rather close links with the industries whose expansion is shaped by
recommendations for maximum threshold values for the different frequencies of
electromagnetic fields".[3]
See also
Mobile phone radiation and health
International Radiation Protection Association - IRPA
References
[1]"Framework for Developing Health-Based EMF Standards" (pdf). World
Health Organization. Retrieved 7 January 2011.
[2]"WHO - International Organizations". Retrieved 27 October 2012.
[3]Huss, Jean (2011-05-06). "B. Explanatory memorandum by Mr Huss, rapporteur -
Section 7. Technological progress and economic growth at the expense of environment and
health protection - Subsection 29". The potential dangers of electromagnetic fields
and their effect on the environment - Report - Doc. 12608. Council of Europe -
Parliamentary Assembly - Committee on the Environment, Agriculture and Local and Regional
Affairs. Retrieved 2013-04-10.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Commission_on_Non-Ionizing_Radiation_Protection
*******
Gary Stuyvenberg
Sr. EMC Engineer
Thompson Consulting
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On Wed, 4/4/18, John Woodgate<j...@woodjohn.uk> <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [PSES] [SPAM] Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards
per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID
To:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2018, 3:59 PM
As is usual with these things, about 20% of the words are justified, the
rest are not, or vice versa.
For example, in the first citation, the first 7 words are not justified
by any peer-reviewed
research reports, the rest are largely true. In the second citation, the
first 14 words are
asserted without proof. In the third citation, the words 'produced by
EMF exposures'
and 'of EMFs' are asserted without proof. The sentence without these
words is claimed
to be true. In the fourth statement, the words 'reduce the harmful
effects of EMFs'
are superfluous; everyone knows that the rest of the sentence is true,
whether one is
exposed to EMF or not.
Alternatively, you can believe that the relevant IEEE and ICNIRP
research reports are all falsehoods.
John Woodgate
OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk>
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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On 2018-04-04 20:41,gdstuyvenb...@yahoo.com
<mailto:gdstuyvenb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Re: Exposure Limits
Thought I would post this to the group as it has been the
subject of debate for many years. I found it Interesting as
it gets into the mechanisms at work and symptoms while
underscoring the importance of our work.
Gary Stuyvenberg
Sr. EMC Engineer
Thompson Consulting
THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS EXPLAINED
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/09/03/electromagnetic-fields-harmful-effects.aspx
September 03, 2017 • 148,493 views
Story at-a-glance
- Exposure to microwave EMFs, like cellphones, causes massive
mitochondrial dysfunction due to
damage done by free radicals from peroxynitrite that also cause single
and double stranded breaks in
your DNA
- Excessive free radicals triggered by low-frequency microwave exposure
from cellphones and Wi-Fi
networks have been linked to chronic diseases such as cardiac
arrhythmias, anxiety, depression,
autism, Alzheimer’s and infertility
- Excessive calcium signaling produced by EMF exposures also has
important roles in producing
pathophysiological effects of EMFs including each of the effects listed
above
- Strategies that may help reduce the harmful effects of EMFs include
optimizing your magnesium level,
certain Nrf2-boosting foods, exercise, calorie restriction and strategies
that boost nitric oxide signaling
(which acts, in turn, by raising Nrf2)
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