I wouldn¹t lay claim to the mantle of ³great engineer,² but I have had a
very successful and fulfilling career, and greatly exceeded my expectations
going into the field.

While the names of my mentors might not mean much to most of you,  it is the
specific knowledge and skills I was able to access from each that is
important.

>From Bill Briles, who worked in aerospace and military aviation, I learned
empiricism, in a sense. That is, to learn a lot of the facts and sources and
to be able to quote chapter and verse on any topic of interest.  He was a
master of quoting any relevant military standard on just about any
electrical engineering topic.

>From H. David Fassburg, a radar systems and EMC engineer, I learned to think
about things and analyze them, not merely quote chapter and verse from some
authority. Both empirical knowledge and analytical skills are necessary.

And finally, from Mark Nave, five years my junior, I learned to look at EMC
engineering not only as a technical skill, but as a profession.  Mark Nave
ignited the desire to be in business for myself, and imparted some of the
skills and knowledge to do so (in addition to teaching me a great deal of
EMC design principles).

It also helped that at the same time Mark Nave was providing a good Force,
there was a dark Force propelling me out the door of my employer.  I owe as
much to a particularly unpleasant boss in this regard.

But I had had such in the past with no such response or even consideration
on my part, so it took both the bad Force of a bad boss and the good Force
to push me successfully in the right direction.

Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261



From: Douglas Smith <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Douglas Smith <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:16:45 -0700
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PSES] ESD question


I also have a copy of those waveforms and a paper Michael King wrote on one
of my older Macs, can likely find it if needed.

I was lucky to have been mentored by Michael King when I was younger. He is
a great scientist/engineer and had a great effect on me.

I was fortunate to have four great mentors in my life: my Father, George
Florio (who got me into this field at age ten and helped me to become an
engineer by age 14), Henry Ott, and Michael King. I can¹t imagine my life
without these great men.

Maybe others can post about mentors who helped them become engineers.

Doug Smith
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:52, John Woodgate <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  
> 
> It's probably not ethnicity directly, but skin resistance. This varies greatly
> between people. Long years ago, when we had touch-contact channel change on
> TVs, we had to double the sensitivity so that one particular person in the lab
> could work it. When we took sets to a show, someone turned up who couldn't
> work it.  We found it necessary to double the sensitivity again.  If you think
> about a person standing in the ESD field as a large (poorly-) conducting body,
> you can see why the effect can occur.
>  
>  
> John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
> J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk>
> Rayleigh, Essex UK
>  
> On 2018-06-20 14:06, Jim Hulbert wrote:
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>> 
>> Somewhere, I have copies of the discharge waveforms (captured on a scope)
>> from human subjects that Michael King recruited during his studies.  As I
>> recall, the amplitude of the ESD pulses was limited to about 10kV as the
>> subjects started to balk.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> I believe Michael¹s studies also led to the development of the Andy Hish 255
>> probe.  The waveform from that probe, which was a long wand grasped in the
>> hand, was influenced by the human body capacitance of the technician
>> performing the tests.   There was a situation some years ago in our EMC Lab,
>> where my associate and I both consistently passed a product for ESD using the
>> Andy Hish probe, which was our corporate standard tester at the time.
>> However, an intern working with us consistently failed the product.  We did
>> our best to make sure we were all following the exact same test technique.
>> The only difference my associate and I could think of was that the intern was
>> of a different ethnicity than us.  We didn¹t dare mention that, however.
>>  
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>>  
>> 
>> Jim Hulbert
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