Charlie, John, thanks for the insightful feedback as always. The latest email from the manufacturer doesn't do much to inspire confidence!
James From: Charlie Blackham <[email protected]> Sent: 30 August 2018 10:29 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities Completely agree The importer can do all the testing on the 1st sample, but then the manufacturer can make whatever they like with impunity and the importer takes on all the manufacturer change control risk for ongoing compliance without any means of controlling or monitoring it. Barge pole at the ready regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: <https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f 5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> www.sulisconsultants.com Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: John Woodgate <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 30 August 2018 10:01 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities Run, do not walk, away from this manufacturer. Either they are dangerously unaware of the EU requirements, or they are deliberately avoiding commitment. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-08-30 08:48, James Pawson (U3C) wrote: Hello all, I'm working with a company who are importing some IT products from China to the EU. The Chinese manufacturer is taking a very much "hands off" approach to approvals, expecting the importer to draw up the DoC and perform much of the testing. However access to the parts of the Technical File that detail product construction are being held by the manufacturer and getting access to these is not straightforward. My question is: provided that all the documentation boxes are ticked and the product has been sufficiently assessed, can one reasonably take on responsibilities for other actors in the supply chain in this manner? I'm undecided if this is acceptable. My feeling is that whilst it is not to the letter of the law, it is to the spirit and would be acceptable depending on the importers tolerance to risk. However the letter of the directives is explicit in determining responsibilities e.g. that the manufacturer shall draw up the DoC. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. Thanks and all the best James - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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