I don't like F.2 wording. The note suggests that the same argument as yours was put forward and there was no consensus about  the current.  Bond testing ought not to be damaging; if it is, the boding is not specified correctly.  It should also not be dangerous; in fact, it is difficult to see why it should be dangerous if proper provision is made for connecting the test source, which has as low a compliance voltage as possible (e.g. 12 V).  Of course, if only test prods are provided and the source has a compliance voltage of 200 V, then there will be trouble, but that should be obvious.

I really do not want a piece of equipment that has a bond conductor almost cut through during the assembly process. Still less than 0.1 ohm, but won't carry 25 A.

Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
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On 2019-05-17 20:08, Regan Arndt wrote:

Hello members,

I tried to search my EMC-PSTC archives (to no avail) regarding a debate of using either ground bond (let's assume 25A for this discussion) or ground continuity (resistance measured < 0.1 ohm for this discussion) testing _during production_.

Therefore, I would like to bring the topic up (again?) and get your professional opinion on these tests.

(Side note: Omnia has put out a brochure recently promoting the use of ground bond test in addition to ground continuity during production, but I am a little skeptical.)


I am a proponent for the ground continuity test during production for several reasons:

1.It’s safe to conduct, especially for production staff

2.Less harmful to the equipment

3.Intent is to verify the ground path is ‘secure’.

And I am an opponent to the ground bond test during production for several reasons:

1.Dangerous to conduct. Need astute production personnel that know what they are doing.

2.I consider this a type test and ‘somewhat’ damaging/stressful….(Yes, can be debated)…


Yes, the ground bond test is useful and a good indicator for determining the ampacity integrity of cables/connectors but, in my opinion, it should be reserved for type testing only.

_I feel that there is no reason to do the ground bond test during production if the manufacture controls their components in purchasing/design via an ECO process, etc., thus the ground continuity test is thereby sufficient_.

If one have no component control process, then, yes, GB is a good idea.


Note that IEC 61010-1 Annex F (Routine tests) also specifies the ground continuity test (and not a ground bond test)....... but also take note that it does say the value for current is not specified.

*/F.2 Protective earth/*

/A continuity test is made between the earth pin of the appliance inlet or the //MAINS //plug of plug-connected equipment, or the //PROTECTIVE CONDUCTOR TERMINAL //of //PERMANENTLY CONNECTED EQUIPMENT //on the one side, and all //ACCESSIBLE //conductive parts which are required by 6.5.2 to be connected to the //PROTECTIVE CONDUCTOR TERMINAL //on the other side./

/NOTE No value is specified for the test current./

/
/

Your reply is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Regan Arndt

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