I meant to add that we have to take economic considerations into account
as well as engineering and science. No-one would thank us for specifying
an EMC test that takes three weeks to carry out. We leave that to the
people who specify environmental tests!
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-08-10 21:44, John Woodgate wrote:
I think that in many cases all of the bullet items apply to active
members of a committee. The number of active members may be
significantly fewer than the total membership. At the committee level,
at least in the IEC and BSI committees that I have attended, is not
based on majority voting but on consensus, 'absence of [reasonable]
sustained objection'. Approval to publish is based on voting.
Active members understand the technical issues very well; many are
acknowledged world authorities. Standards-writing principles and
editorial rules are laid down in standards organization documents,
such as ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 , CEN/CENELEC Internal Regulations
Part 3 and, at the GB national level, BS 0 ('BS Zero'). But IEC and
CENELEC do not insist on committees having 'in-house' editors,
although IEC now officially allows it, while BSI seems to regard
editing as a staff duty, so the editor isn't an expert on the
technology. The main point is that editing is a skill that not
everyone has, just like musicianship. So pick your editors carefully,
otherwise disharmony may be inevitable. One document - one editor,
too, because there aren't absolute 'right' answers in editing, only
'wrong 'ones, and if two or more people try to edit the same text you
get disputes about equally acceptable wordings.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-08-10 20:44, Richard Nute wrote:
Regarding the standards... standards are written by guys like you and
me. Experts in the WG and national committees are not paid for their
knowledge (which actually is one of the finest on the planet !) , and
many of them will confirm that they (or their employer) actually need
to pay to transfer their expertise to IEC. Many members will lack
motivation (or are not allowed ) to really spend time in correcting,
drafting and searching for problems in standards texts. Participating
in standards work is a kind of charity, but for those who are
nominated to defend their employers interests. So small errors are
easily overlooked, and it seems that you found a few of them.
Standards work is to a significant extent supported by people who,
for whatever reason, have more than normal time to devote to it.
Quite a large proportion are formally retired, and for them,
continued participation is not only 'making a difference' but also
essential intellectual exercise.
Well… we have a number of different standards committee member
motivations (to attend a meeting):
* Learn the standard
* Protect the employer
* Employer-paid travel with time off from normal work
* Liaison with peers
* Critique or support standards proposals
* Present a proposal
Employer may or may not encourage the member to prepare for a meeting
and to make proposals. In my experience, the work comes first, and
any preparation time is after the work is done. Meeting attendance
cannot short-change the work, so attendance at any one meeting is not
guaranteed.
Proposals for standards or standards changes are based on majority
vote, not necessarily based on engineering or science. (There are
rarely qualifications for standards committee members.) Few members
understand technical issues and English standards-writing principles.
Rich
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