Regarding upgrade, it might be feasible to look at it this way, depending on 
the fine point details.

If the customer buys your upgrade parts in a B2B transaction (i.e. they 
essentially hire you to provide parts that will upgrade equipment they already 
own). Then the upgrade hardware is just components the customer is purchasing 
to expanding the functionality of a product they already own. Components 
intended for further incorporation in to a final product tend not to be 
directly in scope of many/most/all CE marking directives. The Customer, then, 
is on the hook for re-assessing their new product to applicable directives, and 
creating a new DoC. You, as a helpful supplier, can anticipate their needs and 
do much of the work for them.

If you are marketing an upgrade kit that any J.Q. Public can purchase as an 
"expansion option" for their product, the situation is different. Then the item 
is more of an "accessory" an probably has to be CE marked etc.. on its own.

Regards,
Lauren Crane
Tokyo Electron
From: John Woodgate <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking and DoC for Multi Device Product


That is what used to be called a 'system', although the term seems to have been 
dropped now. Each piece should be CE marked, otherwise the surveillance 
authorities won't know it's legitimate. You don't need a DoC for each bit, only 
for the system, but each bit needs an identifier, which could be a part number, 
but could also be something less nerdy. For example, if the whole system is 
called 'E-Box One', the bits could be marked 'EB1a', 'EB1b'... . Upgrade bits 
can refer to the system DoC provided they are explicitly included in it. They 
need the CE mark and the identifier. Supplying a replacement part IS officially 
'marketing' in Europe.

That is, in my opinion, the simplest solution. You might be able to claim that, 
as an add-on has no function on its own, other rules apply, but I think this is 
just adding a needless complication. However you describe the bits, they have 
to meet all applicable Directives and Regulations. There is no escape.

Best wishes

John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<http://www.woodjohn.uk>

Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-08-12 19:31, Brian Kunde wrote:
If I have an electronic product that I want to place on the market in Europe, 
and the product is made up of several individual electronic devices each 
powered by AC mains (packaged and sold together), do I place the CE marking on 
only one of the devices or all devices?

And if the answer is "all devices", then do I need a DoC for each device or 
will one DoC be ok? If each device has its own identifier, can I just list all 
identifiers on the DoC?  OR can I simply list what the devices are instead of 
their specific part numbers?

In the same train of thought, If my product is called "E-box One", for example, 
AND the product is made up of many individual electronic devices each with 
their own identifying part number, does the marketing name "E-box One" have to 
be on at least one of the devices that make it up OR does it have to be on 
every one of the devices?

How do we handle the case were say two years down the road a customer with a 
4-device system wants to expand to a 5-device system?  Individually these 
devices are nothing and could be viewed as an upgrade kit. Does this "kit" have 
to have its own CE Marking and DoC?   What if the "kit" is not officially 
marketed; just the customer ordered a kit similar to ordering a replacement 
part?

How should these be handled?

Thanks,
The Other Brian
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