Take the reading. It's the only way to be sure.. It is not unusual for a product to pass @ 3m and then fail at 10m (or vice versa).
Thanks! Charles Grasso W: 303-706-5467 From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Reading or Limit Conversion? This message originated outside of DISH and was sent by: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> This inconsistency (in the underlying CISPR standards) should be addressed by CISPR, but it is difficult to get consensus whenever it is discussed. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-10-28 07:05, Charlie Blackham wrote: David Hmm, different standards appear to deal with this differently: * EN 55011:2009 section 6.2.2.3 instructs you to normalise the measured data to the specified distance in the standard * EN 55032:2015 section 9 instructs you to adjust the limits (in fact it gives limits for 3 and 10m which are 10 dB apart and not 10.45dB apart if you extrapolate using 20LogD) * ANSI 63-4:2014 instructs you to extrapolate the results If the standard or test method doesn't specify, I guess the important thing is to be clear in the report as to what's been done. 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