Hi Kevin, according to the information published by CENELEC, citation of EN IEC 63044-5-1 in the OJEU is not expected (CENELEC - CLC/TC 205 (cencenelec.eu)<https://standards.cencenelec.eu/dyn/www/f?p=CENELEC:110:0::::FSP_PROJECT:62338&cs=149B9A7F069F95C68BB11F7F9660F6677>). Nevertheless, you are free to reference EN IEC 63044 standards instead of EN 50491 standards in your Declaration of Conformity, as defined in EMC 2014/30/EU, Annex II, 3(d): "The technical documentation shall, wherever applicable, contain at least the following elements: [...] (d) a list of the harmonised standards applied in full or in part the references of which have been published in the Official Journal of the European Union and, where those harmonised standards have not been applied, descriptions of the solutions adopted to meet the essential requirements of this Directive, including a list of other relevant technical specifications applied." I recommend to include a short rationale in your risk analysis that the standards listed in the OJEU have been withdrawn at their respective DOW, and therefore no longer represent the state of the art to comply with the essential requirements of the EMCD, and to apply the superseding harmonised standards instead. Legally, you will no longer benefit from the presumption of conformity (Article 13 of the EMCD, https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32014L0030&from=EN#d1e1161-79-1), but in a liability case, this may be a smaller problem than to reference standards that have been withdrawn almost 10 years ago by the standards organisation. Alternatively, if your equipment complies with both EN 50491 and EN IEC 63044, you may consider to reference both standards in your DoC, but I cannot estimate whether this will solve your problem with Turkish customs.
Kind regards, Bernd Von: Kevin McCandless <000011486f2cd44e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. April 2022 18:52 An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Betreff: [PSES] When is the OJEU going to be updated? Sie erhalten nicht oft eine E-Mail von 000011486f2cd44e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org<mailto:000011486f2cd44e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>. Erfahren Sie, warum dies wichtig ist<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> Hello Experts, In an earlier thread, I saw a question about the standards referenced in the OJ being outdated. And I think the pain point was Turkey. I have that same pain point! A lot of my products fall under the HBES/BACS family. The current product standard is EN 63044-1 with the EMC subparts 5-1,2,3. The current versions are dated 2017-01. The summary list of harmonized standards for the EMCD (2014/30/EU) is dated 13-04-2022 and it only lists the EN 50491 series of standards. The DOW of the EN 50491 series was 03-03-2020. So the OJ is over two years out of date. Being bound by the OJ for my DoC's, I have been listing compliance to the EN 50491 standards. But, they are rejected by Turkey every time because they point out the long past DOW. And they demand a DoC stating compliance to the current EN 63044 series. So does anyone on this form know when the OJ will be updated, in particular, for my product standard series? Best regards, Kevin ______________________________ _______________________________________________ __________________ Kevin McCandless | Schneider Electric | Energy Management Business - Digital Energy Division - Digital Buildings LoB | Senior Regulatory Engineer Internal - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7C3dcae2f4ad274c8c4ba308da29376da7%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637867615298489114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QS9R6Ul%2FgU5cA5YyDEeEpG4qUbuNXRvm39o4D287h2M%3D&reserved=0> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fproduct-compliance.oc.ieee.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C3dcae2f4ad274c8c4ba308da29376da7%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637867615298489114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BVQBzprBbk0Q3LTkNt51FOxqj7Pqb4z8W5XUESVSdvI%3D&reserved=0> can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C3dcae2f4ad274c8c4ba308da29376da7%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637867615298489114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=T7N8dDGKF8FdLcmwofJJal9l%2BxROWB5T3x5qk8F%2BL4A%3D&reserved=0> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flist.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7C3dcae2f4ad274c8c4ba308da29376da7%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637867615298489114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=p%2FYt6x%2FoRCZW5uYpgqeDl2H2OM9vYeRS%2BTWw4Cv0TZg%3D&reserved=0> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flistrules.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7C3dcae2f4ad274c8c4ba308da29376da7%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637867615298489114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gfbqx7ZK3eAo5AAmb2QBgmES6fNfamMqEvzIdErS8Kk%3D&reserved=0> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org<mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org<mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org<mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com<mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> ________________________________ WILO SE Wilopark 1, 44263 Dortmund Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 21356 www.wilo.com Vorstand/Executive Board: Oliver Hermes (President & CEO), Dr. Patrick Niehr, Georg Weber, Mathias Weyers Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender/Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Lars Roßner Dieses Dokument ist vertraulich zu behandeln. Die Weitergabe sowie Vervielfaeltigung, Verwertung und Mitteilung seines Inhalts ist nur mit unserer ausdruecklichen Genehmigung gestattet. Alle Rechte vorbehalten, insbesondere fuer den Fall der Schutzrechtsanmeldung. This document has to be treated confidentially. Its contents are not to be passed on, duplicated, exploited or disclosed without our expressed permission. All rights reserved, especially the right to apply for protective rights. Datenschutz ist uns wichtig! Daher gehen wir sorgsam mit Ihren Daten um. Näheres finden Sie in unseren Datenschutzhinweisen<https://wilo.com/de/de/Wilo-Deutschland/Datenschutzhinweise.html>. Sollten Sie keinen Kontakt mehr mit uns wünschen, wenden Sie sich bitte an datensch...@wilo.com<mailto:datensch...@wilo.com>. Data Protection is important to us! Therefore we handle your data carefully. Please find the details in our Note on Data Protection<https://wilo.com/de/de/Note-on-data-protection.html>. If you do not wish to stay in touch with us anymore, please write to data-priv...@wilo.com<mailto:data-priv...@wilo.com>. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
