Many retailers who sell consumer goods will require NRTL marking on electrical 
goods as part of their purchase contract with you.

Mike Sherman
Sherman PSC LLC

>     On 09/27/2022 5:03 PM Knudsen, Patty 
> <00001c82e1717b3f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     OSHA regulates the USA workplace, but a lot of local USA jurisdictions 
> (Los Angeles, California, for one) require NRTL approval for consumer 
> products.  There are many NRTL agencies (UL, CSA, Nemko, Intertek, TUV are a 
> few) that can do the job.
> 
> 
>     Patty
> 
> 
> 
>     From: Kevin Robinson <kevinrobinso...@gmail.com>
>     Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 5:03 AM
>     To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>     Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question
> 
> 
>     [CAUTION: External Email]
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> 
>     OSHA requires any electrical product being used in the workplace to be 
> tested and certified by an NRTL.  There is no lower voltage or power limit.  
> 
> 
>     A “UL Listing” and “NRTL Certification” are the same thing.  The 
> difference being the UL Listing is a NRTL Listing specifically from UL 
> (similar to the difference between “Kleenex” and “facial tissue”
> 
> 
>     Kevin Robinson 
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>     From: Dürrer Bernd <bernd.duer...@wilo.com mailto:bernd.duer...@wilo.com >
>     Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 7:56:08 AM
>     To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
> <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >
>     Subject: [PSES] AW: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question
> 
> 
>     Hello James,
> 
>      
> 
>     I propose to check Annex A of the National Electrical Code NFPA 70 (NFPA 
> 70®: National Electrical Code® 
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nfpa.org%2Fcodes-and-standards%2Fall-codes-and-standards%2Flist-of-codes-and-standards%2Fdetail%3Fcode%3D70&data=05%7C01%7CPatty.Knudsen%40Teradata.com%7C115a6b328a05434a84a708daa0804228%7C9151cbaafc6b4f4889bb8c4a71982138%7C0%7C0%7C637998769973197017%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nXBDZv1ceZH16GjMFzGLQyLm7K3D%2FP8ZA%2BOqdOSqR08%3D&reserved=0
>  ) that contains a list of product safety standards used for product listing 
> where listing is required by the NEC. If the equipment in question is in the 
> scope of a standard mentioned there, it requires listing (i.e. certification 
> by a NRTL as defined in NEC article 110.3(C)).
> 
>      
> 
>     Kind regards,
> 
>      
> 
>     Bernd
> 
>      
> 
>     Von: James Pawson (U3C) <ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk 
> mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk >
>     Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2022 09:20
>     An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>     Betreff: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question
> 
> 
>     Hello experts,
> 
> 
>     I'm trying to understand what electrical products require NRTL approval 
> for electrical safety for sale in the United States.
> 
> 
>     Looking on the OSHA website I find this page 
> (https://www.osha.gov/nationally-recognized-testing-laboratory-program/products-requiring-approval
>  
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>     
> https://www.osha.gov/nationally-recognized-testing-laboratory-program/1910-references#1910_303-307
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> 
> 
>     Taking this at face value, particularly 303(g)(2)(i), does this mean that 
> equipment operating at less than 50V (I'm assuming DC and AC RMS) does not 
> require NRTL approval?
> 
> 
>     The question comes from a customer who was emailed by one of his US 
> customers stating that he should have "UL listing". I understand that NRTL 
> approval and the Listing process are different with the latter being more 
> involved? Would appreciate any comments on this.
> 
> 
>     Thanks as always.
> 
> 
>     All the best
>     James
> 
> 
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