Thanks John, As you can imagine mainstream media tends to give us a filtered view, with various unspoken motivations. This is the very reason I do not rely upon a single source. And of course, guidance provided on https://www.gov.uk should always be viewed in its official capacity.
I appreciate your insider's perspective, -Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time (US-MDT) On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 9:58 AM <john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Doug & co > > > > I can only speak for myself and what I have seen & heard in the mainstream > broadcast media (don’t do Twitter, FB etc!). > > > > The majority viewpoint seems to be that it is far too late to do anything > in the short-medium term about re-joining the EU, even if there was another > referendum on the subject that said “Yes, Rejoin”. None of the main-stream > political parties are pushing for it *(at least those in England, but > there are very different views held by some parties in Wales, N. Ireland > and especially the SNP in Scotland!).* > > > > Thus I can’t see it happening “anytime soon”, if at all! > > > > FWIW: To state my personal perspective, I was very much in favour of the > UK joining in the first place many years ago because of my experiences of > the many “technical barriers to trade” which made exporting to the then > (IIRC!) Common Market countries really difficult due to all the differences > between them. Then, in the Referendum I was very much in favour of > Remaining in the EC & very disappointed in the (marginal!) result *(my > opinion of those who voted to leave was/still is fairly unprintable – > something about “cutting off your nose to spite your face”!)* > > > > John E Allen > > W. London, UK > > *From:* Doug Powell <doug...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* 07 November 2022 16:15 > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending > Regulatory Change to UKCA Program > > > > I've been watching the latest UK news with interest. From my perspective > in the US news media, it seems with the financial, energy, and PM woes, > there is a small movement discussing how BREXIT may have been a mistake. > Possibly John Allen can elaborate about how the locals feel about this, Is > there any real possibility of reverting to EU membership, or not? > > > > thanks, -Doug > > > > > > Douglas E Powell > > Laporte, Colorado USA > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> > > > > (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time (US-MDT) > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:53 AM Richard Georgerian < > richa...@mesanetworks.net> wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > As a follow-up to John Allen’s email below – > > > > Has the UK submitted and/or passed any legislation for the UKCA labelling > easement until December 31, 2025? Otherwise, the UKCA labelling starts on > December 31, 2022. > > I went to the www.gov.uk website and there is no mention of the specific > legislation. Just the announcement that the UK *intends to submit* > legislation for the easement. > > > > Thank-you, > > > > …Richard Georgerian > > Compliance Engineer > > HID Global > > > > *From:* John E Allen <000009cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:01 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending > Regulatory Change to UKCA Program > > > > For anyone who has not seen this or something similar! > > > > John E Allen > > W.London, UK > > > > *From:* Intertek <nore...@e.intertek.com> > *Sent:* 03 August 2022 12:58 > *To:* john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk > *Subject:* Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program > > > > The UK Government has announced its intention to introduce new regulation > as a principle ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > > > > > > [image: Intertek] > <http://links.intertek.mkt4245.com/els/v2/pwaLHKk2DmCr/WFpETTVWYjJqaDhRL3kwZmJzejB4VE05NlQwVlBlNUtvRGx0dDVOaWNGZ0RZYmtrdCtybytMRVJxb0UwWVhzRnBkaWZROWJwcnJiU1BjTWdxc0J4MDduTUxhQWx0R1k2d2c1TTNWR2ZSMFE9S0/b3grNmY2R3BIM2RhZ1VheDBwYlVydUt2VjRQV3piYUtiOHgvbTNvSGIyd3g0eVQrVEVMbEtJWElxS0V0U2lZNjZveVQzQTFUSjF3YjZnaWhyNDNLR2E5b0dZUFduUFgvZGhlQVZBLzM1YncxYVY1TE8zcU5EVitsbnRmMGNBMDBEUENMaE9QTmVudmhvM1Q1MXJrcmZQZkR1MkZtRXo2bU1wVVgrWTlIVFY0PQS2> > > [image: Total Quality. Assured.] > > > > > > *The UK is pending a regulatory change to their UKCA Program* > > > > > > The UK Government has announced its intention to introduce new regulation > as a principle so to reduce the costs involved for the > re-certification/re-testing of products for UKCA marking. This new > regulation, when introduced (no timelines given), and based on the summary > notice criteria, will effectively increase the acceptance of CE marking of > products as a means of meeting UKCA marking requirements. > > > > > > > > > > *Until this new regulation is introduced, the current framework, timelines > and conformity assessment process for UKCA marking remains, in that from 01 > January 2023, CE marking will no longer be accepted when placing product > onto the Great Britain Market.* > > > > > > > > > > The full details of the UK Government announcement can be found here > <http://links.intertek.mkt4245.com/els/v2/K6~VJWdr~zQZ/WFpETTVWYjJqaDhRL3kwZmJzejB4VE05NlQwVlBlNUtvRGx0dDVOaWNGZ0RZYmtrdCtybytMRVJxb0UwWVhzRnBkaWZROWJwcnJiU1BjTWdxc0J4MDduTUxhQWx0R1k2d2c1TTNWR2ZSMFE9S0/>. > Please refer to the 22 June update. > > > > > > *READ THE UPDATE* > <http://links.intertek.mkt4245.com/els/v2/_k~8BzWqA_QR/WFpETTVWYjJqaDhRL3kwZmJzejB4VE05NlQwVlBlNUtvRGx0dDVOaWNGZ0RZYmtrdCtybytMRVJxb0UwWVhzRnBkaWZROWJwcnJiU1BjTWdxc0J4MDduTUxhQWx0R1k2d2c1TTNWR2ZSMFE9S0/> > > > > > > > > > > > > *On Introduction of The New Regulation* > > > > > > In summary, product conformity assessment will see the following changes: > > > > - Completed conformity assessment activities carried out on product > under EU requirements (including existing testing, certification, and > contractual arrangements relating to the quality control or auditing of > existing certificates) undertaken by non-UK conformity assessment bodies > (EU Notified Bodies accredited by their national accreditation body) for CE > certification before 1 January 2023 to be used by manufacturers to declare > existing product types as compliant with UKCA. > - Products must still bear UKCA marking and will need to undergo > conformity assessment with a UK Approved Body at the expiry of the > certificate or after 5 years (31 December 2027), whichever is sooner. > - Manufacturers to apply the UKCA mark without the need for any > UK-recognised CAB involvement and continue to place their goods on the > market, on the basis of their existing CE type examination completed before > 31 December 2022, for the lifetime of the certificate issued, or until 31 > December 2027 (whichever is sooner). > - Conformity assessment procedures not completed and supported by a CE > certificate issued before 1 January 2023, these products are considered > ‘new’ products. 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