Totally agree!! On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 11:14 AM Lfresearch < 000000734758d943-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote:
> * This message originated outside of DISH and was sent by: > 000000734758d943-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <000000734758d943-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> * > ------------------------------ > I think most people have learned to not listen to MSM, but rely on > individuals in groups like this to further knowledge. It’s highly > beneficial to have working members, most without a dog in the fight, in > multiple economic zones. > > That said, and to counterpoint a different position, I was originally in > favor of England joining the EU many years ago since the idea of removing > barriers to free trade is highly appealing. > > HOWEVER, what has transpired while populations have been asleep at the > wheel is nothing other than a power grab of sovereignty: Totally > unacceptable and it was highly encouraging for England to exit from the EU > and I hope other will follow. I have a hope that the UK and the rest of the > world can work toward the removal of unnecessary trade barriers and > standardization. Something I devote many hours a day promoting. > > Cheers, > > Derek. > > On Nov 7, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Doug Powell <doug...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks John, > > As you can imagine mainstream media tends to give us a filtered view, > with various unspoken motivations. This is the very reason I do not rely > upon a single source. And of course, guidance provided on > https://www.gov.uk > <https://www.gov.uk> > should always be viewed in its official capacity. > > I appreciate your insider's perspective, -Doug > > > Douglas E Powell > Laporte, Colorado USA > LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> > > (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time (US-MDT) > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 9:58 AM <john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> Doug & co >> >> >> >> I can only speak for myself and what I have seen & heard in the >> mainstream broadcast media (don’t do Twitter, FB etc!). >> >> >> >> The majority viewpoint seems to be that it is far too late to do anything >> in the short-medium term about re-joining the EU, even if there was another >> referendum on the subject that said “Yes, Rejoin”. None of the main-stream >> political parties are pushing for it *(at least those in England, but >> there are very different views held by some parties in Wales, N. Ireland >> and especially the SNP in Scotland!).* >> >> >> >> Thus I can’t see it happening “anytime soon”, if at all! >> >> >> >> FWIW: To state my personal perspective, I was very much in favour of the >> UK joining in the first place many years ago because of my experiences of >> the many “technical barriers to trade” which made exporting to the then >> (IIRC!) Common Market countries really difficult due to all the differences >> between them. Then, in the Referendum I was very much in favour of >> Remaining in the EC & very disappointed in the (marginal!) result *(my >> opinion of those who voted to leave was/still is fairly unprintable – >> something about “cutting off your nose to spite your face”!)* >> >> >> >> John E Allen >> >> W. London, UK >> >> *From:* Doug Powell <doug...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* 07 November 2022 16:15 >> *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >> *Subject:* Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: >> Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program >> >> >> >> I've been watching the latest UK news with interest. From my perspective >> in the US news media, it seems with the financial, energy, and PM woes, >> there is a small movement discussing how BREXIT may have been a mistake. >> Possibly John Allen can elaborate about how the locals feel about this, Is >> there any real possibility of reverting to EU membership, or not? >> >> >> >> thanks, -Doug >> >> >> >> >> >> Douglas E Powell >> >> Laporte, Colorado USA >> >> LinkedIn >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> >> >> >> >> (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time (US-MDT) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 8:53 AM Richard Georgerian < >> richa...@mesanetworks.net> wrote: >> >> Greetings all, >> >> >> >> As a follow-up to John Allen’s email below – >> >> >> >> Has the UK submitted and/or passed any legislation for the UKCA labelling >> easement until December 31, 2025? Otherwise, the UKCA labelling starts on >> December 31, 2022. >> >> I went to the www.gov.uk >> <http://www.gov.uk/> >> website and there is no mention of the specific legislation. Just the >> announcement that the UK *intends to submit* legislation for the >> easement. >> >> >> >> Thank-you, >> >> >> >> …Richard Georgerian >> >> Compliance Engineer >> >> HID Global >> >> >> >> *From:* John E Allen <000009cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:01 AM >> *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >> *Subject:* [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending >> Regulatory Change to UKCA Program >> >> >> >> For anyone who has not seen this or something similar! >> >> >> >> John E Allen >> >> W.London, UK >> >> >> >> *From:* Intertek <nore...@e.intertek.com> >> *Sent:* 03 August 2022 12:58 >> *To:* john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk >> *Subject:* Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program >> >> >> >> The UK Government has announced its intention to introduce new regulation >> as a principle ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: Intertek] >> <http://links.intertek.mkt4245.com/els/v2/pwaLHKk2DmCr/WFpETTVWYjJqaDhRL3kwZmJzejB4VE05NlQwVlBlNUtvRGx0dDVOaWNGZ0RZYmtrdCtybytMRVJxb0UwWVhzRnBkaWZROWJwcnJiU1BjTWdxc0J4MDduTUxhQWx0R1k2d2c1TTNWR2ZSMFE9S0/b3grNmY2R3BIM2RhZ1VheDBwYlVydUt2VjRQV3piYUtiOHgvbTNvSGIyd3g0eVQrVEVMbEtJWElxS0V0U2lZNjZveVQzQTFUSjF3YjZnaWhyNDNLR2E5b0dZUFduUFgvZGhlQVZBLzM1YncxYVY1TE8zcU5EVitsbnRmMGNBMDBEUENMaE9QTmVudmhvM1Q1MXJrcmZQZkR1MkZtRXo2bU1wVVgrWTlIVFY0PQS2> >> >> [image: Total Quality. Assured.] >> >> >> >> >> >> *The UK is pending a regulatory change to their UKCA Program* >> >> >> >> >> >> The UK Government has announced its intention to introduce new regulation >> as a principle so to reduce the costs involved for the >> re-certification/re-testing of products for UKCA marking. This new >> regulation, when introduced (no timelines given), and based on the summary >> notice criteria, will effectively increase the acceptance of CE marking of >> products as a means of meeting UKCA marking requirements. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Until this new regulation is introduced, the current framework, >> timelines and conformity assessment process for UKCA marking remains, in >> that from 01 January 2023, CE marking will no longer be accepted when >> placing product onto the Great Britain Market.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The full details of the UK Government announcement can be found here >> <http://links.intertek.mkt4245.com/els/v2/K6~VJWdr~zQZ/WFpETTVWYjJqaDhRL3kwZmJzejB4VE05NlQwVlBlNUtvRGx0dDVOaWNGZ0RZYmtrdCtybytMRVJxb0UwWVhzRnBkaWZROWJwcnJiU1BjTWdxc0J4MDduTUxhQWx0R1k2d2c1TTNWR2ZSMFE9S0/>. >> Please refer to the 22 June update. >> >> >> >> >> >> *READ THE UPDATE* >> <http://links.intertek.mkt4245.com/els/v2/_k~8BzWqA_QR/WFpETTVWYjJqaDhRL3kwZmJzejB4VE05NlQwVlBlNUtvRGx0dDVOaWNGZ0RZYmtrdCtybytMRVJxb0UwWVhzRnBkaWZROWJwcnJiU1BjTWdxc0J4MDduTUxhQWx0R1k2d2c1TTNWR2ZSMFE9S0/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *On Introduction of The New Regulation* >> >> >> >> >> >> In summary, product conformity assessment will see the following changes: >> >> >> >> - Completed conformity assessment activities carried out on product >> under EU requirements (including existing testing, certification, and >> contractual arrangements relating to the quality control or auditing of >> existing certificates) undertaken by non-UK conformity assessment bodies >> (EU Notified Bodies accredited by their national accreditation body) for >> CE >> certification before 1 January 2023 to be used by manufacturers to declare >> existing product types as compliant with UKCA. >> - Products must still bear UKCA marking and will need to undergo >> conformity assessment with a UK Approved Body at the expiry of the >> certificate or after 5 years (31 December 2027), whichever is sooner. >> - Manufacturers to apply the UKCA mark without the need for any >> UK-recognised CAB involvement and continue to place their goods on the >> market, on the basis of their existing CE type examination completed >> before >> 31 December 2022, for the lifetime of the certificate issued, or until 31 >> December 2027 (whichever is sooner). >> - Conformity assessment procedures not completed and supported by a >> CE certificate issued before 1 January 2023, these products are considered >> ‘new’ products. 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