Amund The difficult part is ensuring "which can't be bought or even used by consumers" - even if it is only sold or supplied on a B2B basis, is it the type of product and employee could take home with them for personal use or whilst "working from home".
Most national legislation requires equipment used in the workplace to be safe, so whether you could sell B2B equipment without any safety related tests would need to be considered and in any case, reasons should be considered as part of product compliance risk assessment Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin <am...@westin-emission.no> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] SV: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Thanks Ted, As I read your comments and take they into an example - ... consider a professional electronic product, which can't be bought or even used by consumers, will not under any circumstances be covered by GPSD/GPSR. Right? And if product is low powered (not within LVD), then maybe only EMC apply. Then the product could be put on the market without any safety related tests .... Is that correct? BR Amund Fra: Ted Eckert Sendt: 31. oktober 2023 16:10 Til: Amund Westin <am...@westin-emission.no<mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Emne: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Hello Amund, The GPSR has these definitions. I recommend you use them as the basis to determine if you are providing "consumer products" as covered by the scope of the GPSR. "'product' means any item, whether or not it is interconnected to other items, supplied or made available, whether for consideration or not, including in the context of providing a service, which is intended for consumers or is likely, under reasonably foreseeable conditions, to be used by consumers even if not intended for them". "'consumer' means any natural person who acts for purposes which are outside that person's trade, bushiness, craft or profession". There is no clear line drawn between consumer and professional equipment, and the GPSR is intended to cover professional equipment that is likely to be purchased for personal use by some consumers. Products that fall into this grey area may need to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. I would recommend that if you determine a product is not within the scope, your technical file include a clear explanation of why it is out of scope. Best regard, Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -----Original Message----- From: Amund Westin <am...@westin-emission.no<mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) General Product Safety Directive ... Do I interpret correct that GPSD only apply to consumer products? Not for any professional products? And the new General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR) do the same? BR Amund - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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