Good point James. The EM clamp is well behaved and understood. My comment was only meant to address a simple device like an FCC F-33 used on a cord plugged into the wall mains.
Thanks for the clarification!

- Brent


On 1/2/2025 3:50 AM, James Pawson (U3C) wrote:

Following up on Brent’s reply, the CM current measured by the probe will be partially determined by the CM termination impedance which is 150 ohms in the CISPR setups. You can use an IEC 61000-4-6 EM clamp to approximate this with reasonably good results.

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*From:*Brent DeWitt <bdew...@ix.netcom.com>
*Sent:* 17 December 2024 21:54
*To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
*Subject:* Re: [PSES] Conducted emission - LISN vs. current clamp

From my experience, I would seldom expect the current probe and the LISN to show the same answer. The big difference is that the current probe is looking at a fairly random termination impedance compared to the "Line Impedance Stabilization Network", which is reasonably stable in its design. An interesting experiment is to use the CM/DM choke on a power cord plugged into a LISN and examine the differences,

On 12/17/2024 4:27 PM, Ken Wyatt wrote:

    We’ll need a lot more information on what you’re testing, the test
    setup configuration and how you’re measuring DM and CM. Can you
    share some photos or screen captures?

    Usually there will be a difference between DM and CM current
    spectral response. Now Line and Neutral from a LISN will like look
    the same typically.

    Kenneth Wyatt

    Windsor, CO



        On Dec 17, 2024, at 13:46, am...@westin-emission.no wrote:

        

        Clamp is ok for investigate DM and CM currents. LISN for
        formal testing at lab.

        Right now, the plots of CM and DM currents are almost equal
        over the whole spectrum (10k – 30MHz). Surprise?

        In the same setup, using a LISN, the spectrum is quite
        different regarding peaks and waveform.

        I know the information from this test is defective, but do you
        have a first thought anyway?

        BR

        Amund

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