Thanks Lauren. The first two agree with what I currently understand, but not sure about the third. I will continue to research that. Appreciate the response.
> On 02/28/2025 11:24 AM EST Lauren Crane > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For the EU arena, I was recalling that a CE-marked-for-RED component could be > integrated into another product and that incorporating product would not need > additional RED assessment provided: > 1. The RED component was integrated in accordance with its instructions and > particularly was not modified in any RED-relevant way (e.g., chassis or > antenna alterations). > 2. The integrating product calls out RED in its own DoC, describing the > integrated RED component and indicating the NoBo number used for the RED > component. > 3. Repeating the RED component's NoBo number near the CE mark of the > integrating product. > But perhaps that is not longer correct? > > > Best Regards, > -Lauren Crane > > > > > Confidential – Limited Access and Use > > > --------------------------------------------- > From: Charlie Blackham <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 2:33 PM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PSES] RED in an end product > > > > External Email: Do NOT reply, click on links, or open attachments unless you > recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If you believe this email > may be unsafe, please click on the “Report Phishing” button on the top right > of Outlook. > > > > Steve > > I’m going to be slightly pedantic on the terminology, as there’s a difference > between USA/Canada and EU when it comes to modules: > * USA and Canada have a modular certification scheme that allows modules to > be integrated into end products without the need for further “certification” > (assuming grant conditions covering things such as antennas and EMF/SAR are > complied with > * The EU has “radio equipment” and modules are “radio equipment”, but so are > mobile phones, Bluetooth speakers and cellular basestations. Where a module > has a NB certificate that is useful in showing that the module complies with > the stated articles of the RED but can’t just be “carried across”. A product > can have a Notified Body EU-Type Examination certificate, but it’s not > “certified”. > > A quick summary is the “whole product” with the radio in it is now “radio > equipment” and should be assessed: > * For safety against the most appropriate product safety standard – which > could be 62368-1 for IT/AV equipment or 60335-x standards for domestic > appliance > * SAR/EMF needs to be assessed against a suitable standard for the application > * EMC against the most appropriate product standard and the EN 301 489-x > standards in the end product > * RF spectrum is up to the manufacturer - The manufacturer may choose to > trust the module manufacturer, but according to RED article 17 and Annex II > or III, the manufacturer: > o Needs copies of the test reports if self-declaring (so they can confirm > that Harmonised Standards have been fully applied > o Needs another Notified Body certificate for the whole product if Harmonised > Standards haven’t been “fully applied” > o Really ought to do some additional testing of the end radio product, such > as Radiated Spurious Emissions > * All of the above options need to be considered and supported in the > manufacturer’s RED Risk Assessment > * Article 3.3 Cyber security requirements may be applicable to the end > product from 1st August 2025 > > More information in REDCA Technical Guidance Notes > TGN01 on modules, > https://www.redca.eu/Unrestricted%20Documents/TGN/REDCA%20TGN%2001%20RED%20Radio%20equipment%20modules%20V1.2a%20March%202020.pdf > TGN30 on Risk Assessments > https://www.redca.eu/Unrestricted%20Documents/TGN/REDCA%20TGN%2030%20-%20RED%20NB%20Risk%20assessment%20guide%20-%20V3.1%20-%20May%202022.pdf > > > Best regards > Charlie > > Charlie Blackham > Sulis Consultants Limited > Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 > Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > > From: Steve Brody <[email protected]> > Sent: 27 February 2025 19:57 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PSES] RED in an end product > > Never having worked with the RED, the question I have is this: > > A client is incorporating an RED certified [by an NB] module in their end > product. > The RED DoC lists the following standards, and the RED Directive: > > RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU > EN IEC 62368-1: 2020 + EN IEC 62368-1: 2020/A11: 2020 > EN 50566 : 2017 > > EMC (Art.3(1) (b)): > EN 301 489-1 v2.2.3 > EN 301 489-17 v3.2.4 > EN 301 489-3 v2.1.1 > > Spectrum (Art.3(2) > EN 300 328 v2.2.2 (WLAN & BT) > EN 301 893 v2.1. > EN 300 440 v2.2.1 > > What needs to be on the end product DoC? > > Thanks in advance, > > Steve Brody > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > C - 603 617 9116 > > --------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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