On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
>
>   I think with a hollow electrode with a drip feed
>
>>>scheme through the electrode it would go a lot faster.
>>
>> Theres always that 'yabut' Jon, in this case yabut where can I find one of
>> those? :)
>
>Hollow electrode?  I get various bits of brass tubing at some
>electronic/hobby supply places, I think all the hobby shops have
>these racks of aluminum and brass materials (sheet, wire, tube,
>square tube, airfoil-shape and wire).
>
The Hobby Stop might have some, dunno if that small though.  I'll sure check 
when I'm there next.  Its about a 60 mile round trip from here.

>> I have some other stuff too besides the fuel oil (#1 I think), paint
>> thinners etc could be tried too.  Aluma-tap would be a foreign language
>> here in WV unless I ordered it from someplace I suspect...
>
>You might try WD-40 or LPS 1, might be similar substance.

I know for a fact that wd-40 will carbonize like crazy, you can't use it 
anywhere near an electrical contact carrying a load, like a headlight switch 
unless you let it dry for days.  LPS1, being a similar wax in carrier 
product, would probably match it in quick carbonization.

>> Q?  Does distilled water carbon up like the hydrocarbons do when doing
>> this?
>
>Where would the carbon come from?  And, that black stuff is
>probably not primarily carbon, but microscopic metal bits.

Oh, I'd assumed a goodly portion of it was hydrocarbon breakdown products.  My 
bad.

>> I ordered a pair of those transformers I posted the link to a bit ago, so
>> I can go as high as 6 amps short circuit with around 77 volts peak open
>> circuit.  But I can't find any suitable electro's for filtering though.
>> Other than making the sizzle buzz a bit, is upstream filtering of any
>> advantage?  My discharge cap is a 10 uf, 1.5kv rated square can,
>> presumably oil filled.  Even at this voltage, if exposed it will spit
>> sparklers 2".
>
>I think a modest filter right at the rectifier, before the
>resistor, is a good thing, but may not be necessary.  When I got
>everything perfect (a rare occurance) I got a very high rate of
>discharges, like bacon sizzling, and very fast progress.
>Everything usually shorted out soon after due to the buildup of
>metal dust.

Unless I can con the local telco out of one of their 75,000uf x 75 volters, 
its probably going to have to do w/o.  I went googling for big caps last 
night and came up empty, everything is lower voltage for transistors now.

Thanks Jon.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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