Never actually seen one, but this gadget looks sort of like
the middle ground between a full up spectrum analyzer
and just waving around an AM radio.

http://www.saelig.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=EMC006

Cheers,
Steve Stallings


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Shaver
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:57 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Request for information at the CNC Workshop
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 00:18 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> > I don't think there is truly ONE way to do things.  You pretty 
> > much have to use safety-rated controls from Pilz, Crouzet,
> > Schaffner, Faulhaber, etc., and then set them up so they can 
> > function correctly to stop motion, even after a component failure.
> 
> Yes. In fact, that's what I've learned so far! The most recent control
> I've built uses a commercial safety relay in the estop circuit, as well
> as an EN418 qualified (anti tease, positive acting) estop button.
> There's also some redundancy of power control elements and monitoring
> circuits that prevent resetting estop if a contact has welded closed.
> 
> What I'm interested in is what I've missed! I learned all those
> techniques from manufacturers literature that refers to these standards,
> but I've never actually seen the standards documents themselves, and I'd
> like to...
> 
> <...>
> > pretty expensive.  Then, you get into calibrated wideband 
> > antennas, and on and on.  Finally, you have to test every 
> > different configuration, so you generally have to test each 
> > specific installation, if you are doing one-off machine retrofits.
> 
> All true of course. I guess I put too much emphasis on the "accuracy"
> part of my request. I don't doubt that elaborate test equipment and
> facilities would be required to certify performance to a particular
> standard or spec.
> 
> The most basic test for RFI is to tune around the AM radio band on a
> receiver with the antenna close to the equipment under consideration,
> listening for changes in the level of "static". I'm just hoping to
> improve on this; to take it to the next step. Maybe build some sort of
> "hobby standard" wide band RFI detector useful for comparison purposes,
> rather than a calibrated measurement instrument.
> 
> For example, if I put a ferrite bead on a cable, did it help reduce the
> RFI, or was there no change at all? Right now, I'm operating in the
> dark, installing filters, chokes and beads in an anticipatory,
> prophylactic way ;). What I need is a relative indicator to detect
> electrical interference, locate the source, and compare the effect of
> different mitigation methods.
> 
> > Most machine tool controls have had totally uncontrolled 
> > emissions, because they were mostly exempt as heavy industrial 
> > equipment.  Note the lack of output filters on most PWM servo amps.
> 
> Your own being an exception to this!
> 
> > Devices to inject disturbances into the line and equipment 
> > chassis are not as bad as the spectum analyzer type gear, and 
> > you can even make much of this yourself, like with auto ignition 
> > coils and pulser circuits.
> 
> I did make a vibrating relay type noise generator which helped recreate
> an intermittent problem with a spindle speed control board. Once they
> were able to reliably produce the problem, the manufacturer of the board
> was able to add hardware filtering and do some software modifications
> that eliminated the problem.
> 
> I want to come up with some reference designs for these types of noise
> generators so that susceptibility comparisons can be made.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> ]
> 
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