Hello Guys, Thanks you very much for your support. I not say "i not want to use Ladder" , i need program a control routine to move the tool robot, due i not see a easy way to do it in ladder (tranforming a Txx comand into a Cartesian coordinate for example) the othe parts of the machine fit well in ladder like tha Pallet changer or Doors logics. (for my HMM Huller nbh-150)
The Sinumeric Implementation, relly a 10% in ladder the remain in S5 assembly (a hard one, i amaizing the complejized in this programing lenguaje,by lucky i want to stay far away) Now i have the Racks of the sinumerik put side to side to le EMC2 box, also i have a lot of Docs., and i try to make a Diagram of the Control Routine. i have a 50% of the job complete, but in the robotic part i get a wall. Also i study to put another EMC2 box controlling only the Robot and sinchonizing via a serial comunications (so i need to write a special comunications routine to comunicate the Boxs, and "C" come again to mind). The "B" axis is another pain. Due is a Hirt ring system, i need to lift the table before to Rotate to the commanded value, so i need to "trap" the rotate table, as i no nned to interpolate this axis, i study to make a subroutine to do the job. So... i read the Integrator manual, and try to write a simple routine to test my ideas. Any idea is wellcome Thanks Again Juanjo Monday, August 4, 2008, 6:38:58 PM, you wrote: RH> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 13:58 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 14:54 -0500, Ray Henry wrote: >> >> > I'm curious though why you would not want to run ladder? It has obvious >> > advantages. >> > >> > Ray >> >> Only if you know ladder and are tied to it somehow. I think writing >> components in C is much more direct. I have very limited experience with >> ladder (and C actually), which I believe is much more prevalent in >> larger or more complex machines, but I wonder if that is still true with >> today's machines? Anyone have a brand new Haas or Mori Seiki I can take >> apart? RH> There are a few advantages to our ladder programming system. The first RH> is that it mimics contacts, timers, counters, and coils and shows their RH> status is a fairly easily readable display. A PLC based logical system RH> also applies a predictable environment. It reads all the input signals RH> (sense) then applies all of the logic to that state (model) and then RH> sets the computed state of all of the outputs (act) at the same time. RH> Now you can do that with a C program but you are not constrained to do RH> so. As the model part of a hand written system becomes more complex it RH> is more and more likely you will have unintended consequences for some RH> action you took just a few lines up in the code. It's possible to RH> create a race condition with PLC systems but it is less likely and RH> rather easy to see happening in the display. RH> And as a added benefit you need not shut down the machine to develop RH> test and edit your machine logic. I'd push the estop button before I RH> pressed ladder edit rung but if you've written the estop feed to the RH> ladder loop correctly it should assert an estop whenever you edit the RH> logic. RH> And for a more recent machine tool, you would not need to take them RH> apart, simply press the maintenance button and look for ladder. Or RH> easier yet, look for the machine logic in the manuals. RH> HTH RH> Rayh RH> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- RH> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge RH> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes RH> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world RH> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ RH> _______________________________________________ RH> Emc-users mailing list RH> [email protected] RH> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Best regards, juanjo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
