Thanks for the info, Gene.

You've got me worried about my 8800GTX in my newest box here :) It's about 8
months old now I guess.

It's definitely using a card, not onboard video, and your suggestions about
the alternate drivers are making a big difference. Thanks!

-g

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 04 October 2008, Gary Fixler wrote:
> >I tried to send a message last night, but it never showed up on the list.
> I
> >have the worst time getting messages through.
> >
> >Basically, I'm on an aging Shuttle PC from 2002 with an Nvidia GeForce4 Ti
> >4600. When I start up latency-test, I'm in the single-digit thousands,
> like
> >6500 or so. If I play around online with Flash things (e.g. the Fantastic
> >Contraption game) it jumps to about 35k(ns) for the base thread jitter. If
> I
> >open glxgears it usually bumps up to 150k+, and if I maximize it, it soars
> >to well over 350k, sometimes almost 400k. The machine does feel laggy -
> slow
> >window redraws when dragging windows - but I'm also used to a much faster
> >machine now.
> >
> >I've searched linuxcnc and google, and read a bunch about latency, PLCs,
> >CAS, et al on Wikipedia, but it's just too much to absorb, and I can't
> >really find targeted debug steps to try. What have you guys done to
> diagnose
> >these problems. What are some steps I can try? The manual was pretty brief
> >about this. Unfortunately, I know absolutely nothing about things like
> >network adapters and BIOS whatnots.
> >
> >This is something that's been following me since the Dapper version. I've
> >just installed the 8.04 version, and it's quite pretty, but I can't get
> past
> >stage 1. Even the configuration wizard won't work right, because with all
> of
> >the values I'm getting, I can't even run the test buttons properly. The
> >motors step about once per second unless I lie heavily in my answers to
> >questions, like max accel and feed rates and such, and I still can't get
> it
> >to move well.
> >
> >Thanks for any help. I'd love more than anything to get this sorted. Lots
> of
> >projects lined up!
> >-Gary
>
> I'm gonna play possum, and go out to the end of a persimmon branch and
> probably saw it off behind me here, but
>
> Does this shuttle have its nvidia video on the main board, sharing the
> system
> memory instead of using its own?
>
> If that is the case, then the first step is an offboard video card in
> either
> an AGP slot if it has one, or the first PCI slot.  And FWIW, I have an
> older
> AGP GForce2 5200/256 nvidia in my machine, and latencies were terrible when
> using the nvidia binary, quite a bit better when using the nv module, and
> much much better when using the fallback if nothing else works 'vesa'
> driver.
> So that is what I'm using.
>
> To do that offboard video, you'll need to disable the onboard video in the
> bios.
>
> And steer clear of later nvidia cards, their soldering alloy and method
> virtually guarantees a failure within a year.
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Life is a yo-yo, and mankind ties knots in the string.
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