On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:00, Jeff Epler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:34:36PM +0000, alan wrote:
>> So really my query is also about the future. Where will emc go if
>> parallel ports become a thing of the past?
>
> It can go to systems that still have parallel ports, even after they
> become unusual in new consumer PCs.
>
> It can go to systems where parallel ports are available on pci and
> post-pci add-on cards.
>
> It can go to systems where non-parport dumb I/O cards are available.
>
> It can go to pci and post-pci internal busses using intelligent cards
> like the mesa 5i20. (this is the path I personally favor)
>
> It can go into embedded systems that are as powerful as today's desktop
> PCs, but with appropriate I/O (e.g., PC/104)
>
> It can go in ways I haven't even considered in writing this e-mail.
> Whatever someone develops and contributes to emc, that's where emc will
> go.
>
> All that said, for the time being it is simply not a good idea to buy a
> machine without a parport or PCI slot.  I would 100% stay away from
> laptops.
>
> It is not a good idea to buy a laptop for emc (even one with a parallel
> port), because typically you have to choose between leaving SMI
> interrupts enabled (which will introduce huge, stall-inducing delays
> between steps) or disabling them and (according to Intel CPU and chipset
> documentation) burning up the system because fans and other thermal
> management techniques like CPU throttling may not work correctly
> without SMI interrupts.
>
> Cast-off Pentium-III or AMD Athlon desktops are probably the best
> systems to seek out to run emc today.
>
> Jeff
>
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As Jeff said, I'd stay away from laptops. Some have severe latency problems.
Our 2nd CNC box was an IBM PIII/800 from someone's trash. A 2Gig HD got
it running. Our current machine (#3) came from an office where they were getting
rid of old equipment. It was a P4/1.6. I dropped a P4/2.66G in it, bumped the
memory to 512 and it runs EMC fine. I took its 40G HD for myself and put a 10G
in it.  There are good finds in dumpster diving, curb shopping and being lucky.
Another office cleanout resulted in 12 PIII/1G, 256MB machines with 40G HDs.
A few of them had PCI parport cards for additional I/O.
Check out the local thrift shops too. They will dump machines that have simple
problems like dead HDs, etc.
It's amazing what people throw away.

-- 
First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you.
Then you win.
Emory

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