Chris Radek wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
>   
>> Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>>     
>>> As I said before maybe the way to ease into this is just support 1 or a few 
>>> Ethernet chips, and require the user to have a add-in PCI/PCIe Ethernet card
>>> with the required chip.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Having fought this problem to some extent with the par port, I can't 
>> IMAGINE the headache when a potential customer shows up and you tell him 
>> "Oh, it only works on computers with a DEC Tulip ethernet chip."  Add, 
>> he says, "How do I tell, sight unseen, whether any particular computer 
>> has that specific chip?"
>> No, it has to have a bit wider hardware support to be viable.
>>     
>
>
> I think the answer is explicitly in what Peter said above.  You don't
> care what comes in the computer.  You point them to a particular
> network card because it has the right chipset.  It'll be about $5.
> Heck, you might say, as someone who sells hardware that works with it,
> you'll just send him one off your stack of them.  They're $5, after
> all.
>   
I don't know where to get NEW net cards for $5.  All this commodity 
stuff has gone up in price.
Maybe if I contract with a Chinese manufacturer to take 1000 of them I 
can get them that cheap.
Also, there's the PCI vs. PCE-e transition, already well in progress.  
So, I'd have to have some of both.  But, that wouldn't be so bad.
Also, forceing the user to add a 2nd ethernet solves the "how do we deal 
with being on the network at the same time as coexisting with the 
rt-ethernet function."  This makes a lot of sense.  So, does anyone know 
it there is a dumbed-down network protocol stack for real time?
By "dumbed-down", I mean that it just does what any ordinary ethernet 
stack does, without adding any special functions, like time slots for 
each sender.

Jon

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