Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote:
> Hi Stuart,
> 
> I don't mind the redundancy.  Sometimes things are tried twice (or more) in 
> order to get them right once.  :-)
> 
> Machine B will not boot from the CD at all.  hal91 on floppy will boot every 
> time from the floppy.  hal91 files on a CD will not boot from the CD drive.
> 
> Here is someone with a similar problem 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-u...@lists.debian.org/msg44513.html.
> 
> I've been trying to install grub on my hard drive (which is /dev/hdc in 
> Linux-land), and not having any success.
> 

that's your problem. Unless you have BIOS setup to bootup from secondary
master, and kernel set to take that drive as /dev/hdc you won't get
things going. You have either something wrong with jumpers on the
drive(s) or messed up cable select configuration.

You need

HDD0  <---> MOBO IDE0 port  (drive needs to be jumpered as master)
CDROM <---> MOBO IDE1 port  (drive needs to be jumpered as master)
and BIOS setup with primary ATA or IDE drive set as first drive to boot
from. Drives need to be on separate cables with HDD have a cable with
thin set of wires as that allows for faster speed.

So far with all emails I haven't seen what is MOB make and BIOS so all
this leads to numerous speculations and conspiracy theories. Booting
from floppy or trying whatever disk partitioning utilities is a waste of
time. The whole thing should take no more than 30 min.

> I've booted into the Hurd, and run "grub-install", but that just gives me a 
> usage summary.
> 
> So I've tried "grub-install /dev/hdc", which reports that /dev/hdc is not 
> found or not a block device.
> 
> So I've tried "grub-install /dev/hd0 which complains about hd0 having a tray 
> open or drive not ready, and that /dev/hd0 does not have any corresponding 
> BIOS drive.
> 
> So I cd'd into /dev, and ran "./MAKEDEV hd0", which does not generate any 
> errors, but then when I do a "ls -l hd*" I get:
> 

absolute waste of time IMO.

> 
>    hd0 : tray open or drive not ready
>    hd0 : tray open or drive not ready
>    hd0 : tray open or drive not ready
>    hd0 : tray open or drive not ready
>    brw-r-----   1   root   root   0, 0 Jun 17 08:07 hd0
>    brw-r-----   1   root   root   0, 0 Jun 17 08:07 hd1
>    brw-r-----   1   root   root   0, 0 Jun 17 08:06 hd2
>    brw-r-----   1   root   root   0, 0 May 29 09:07 hd2s1
>    brw-r-----   1   root   root   0, 0 Jun 18 06:50 hd2s3
>    brw-r-----   1   root   root   0, 0 Jun 17 08:08 hd3
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on why I'm getting these "tray open..." messages, 

Coffee cup holder status :-)

It appears to be a reference to a CDROM drive with status open tray.

> or why grub doesn't seem to want to install? I've also tried installing grub 
> from the grub boot floppy by typing, at the grub> prompt:
> root (hd0,0)
should be hd1 if the drive is configured for sec. master.
you can edit this from the command line in grub

> setup (hd)
> which generates four or five lines of output, and it _looks_ to me like it 
> installed properly, but when I try to boot off the hard drive, it just hangs 
> before ever getting to a "Loading stage1" or similar message, usually 
> forcing me to cycle the power to reset the computer.
> 
> Just for kicks, I booted off a MS-DOS 6.22 floppy and ran "fdisk /mbr", and 
> then tried to install grub again from the grub floppy, but the same thing 
> happened.
> 
> Thanks!

Throw away floppies! This is 2009 so it's causing global warming. My
suggestion is to download and boot from Knoppix CD which will tell you
what's detected and how it's configured in your PC. It's Linux that
needs to recognize devices not DOS.

When you mess with partition it's possible you made it unbootable if it
was bootable to begin with.

-- 
Rafael

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