On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Jack Coats wrote:

> And even fewer know that rods and chains are legal units of measure  
> either.

Yep. 4 rods/chain, 10  chains/furlong  8 furlongs/mi.
so many paces/chain .... obscure unless you were chasing fires for  
the USFS
during the 50's.
>
> It would be interesting to know the real reasons for the various  
> units of
> measure
> as a historical tidbit.  Much of that information seems to be lost  
> to the
> general population.
>
> I grew up with imperial measures, but as metric comes even to the  
> heartland
> of the US, I do find it challenging to do the conversions in my head.
>
> Even worse than length and area measures are energy and torque  
> measures.

I contend that if we had marked the Interstate Hwy System in Km and
sold gasoline in L at that time we would be metric by now.
>
> I look forward to the day that we are all in the same units, but it  
> won't
> happen
> in my lifetime.  Hopefully in my grand kids.
>
> The conversion I thought that was odd was Shell Oil (part of Royal  
> Dutch
> Shell)
> converted all the pumps to liters.  They were stoic and stayed with  
> it for
> quite
> a while.  Eventually they went back to gallons in the US, because  
> their
> market
> wasn't ready.  Actually I think that metric system was legislated  
> to be the
> official units back in the Carter administration (I could be  
> remembering
> wrong),
> but the markets didn't follow, because customers didn't buy in.

I saw cases where the markets converted but got greedy and marked up  
their
prices way more than proportional thinking the customer was too dumb  
to figure it out.
>
> With reading and writing in groups like this and others, sharing  
> products
> between
> metric and imperial based countries, the conversion will happen  
> naturally.
> But
> it will be slow.
>
> When I was in school, we had to know the mks, cgs, and imperial  
> units for
> weights, measures, energy, mass, power, etc. ... but living in an  
> imperial
> mostly
> society we tend to forget.
>
> My daughter just got a birthday present from a NZ friend.  I  
> thought it was
> interesting there are both imperial and metric measures (not  
> intermixed, on
> a recipe by recipe basis).  It would be nice to get a 'simple'  
> conversion.
> (half cup is roughly 50ml? kind of thing for her)
Most measuring cups are both systems. The inexpensive kitchen scales  
( 5 Kg )
work well for dry measure. The problem comes with small amounts like   
spices.

The druggies tend to use Mettler top loaders (good to .01 g ) which  
is why they get
stolen from laboratories so often.
>
> I was wondering is the international standards on trading gold or  
> diamonds
> in
> imperial or metric?  I really don't know. ...

Always fun to speculate on what might have happened.

Dave
>
>> <> ... Jack
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