And regardless of your arguments, the one factor which distorts everything the most is the government involvement. The Chinese Gov is subsidizing the manufacturing industry so heavily that indeed it is cheaper to buy a bottle of water filled in China and then shipped around the world, than opening your tap. We have to let that happen as our government has sold us out to China so they could promise and deliver us a lifestyle in luxury... that was till the Chinese credit card debt became to big. Till the national debt is back in our control, all discussions about manufacturing technology and quality are completely and utterly secondary as the politics dictate the flow of things and not the economics of reasoning, quality, and how things should be done correctly in the first place. Every time I go to Home depot and have to buy one of their absolutely sub par fasteners I feel anger. Anger about the fact that I WILL have to replace that piece of junk, that I am lucky when I do not turn the head of that screw while tightening it. And so on and so on. The amount of lifetime wasted because of inferior products over the past 5 years is making me even angrier.
So... please... it really does NOT matter how think your wall is in a fitting, what happens with the shavings, which alloy it is. The reason for all of this is on a different level. Controlled by people who like it just the way it is as we have to buy and buy and buy and buy again. Last week I went to Sears and bought a 1.4 inch tap and a cool ratchet wrench to tap a hole in a difficult to access location. I am not new to tapping holes.... I tapped three, then the wrench broke, and then after one more hole the tap... Wrench made in Taiwan 'according to the specs' of some importer. And the tap was made in China. Taiwan stuff is usually alright once one pays for good stuff. But NOTHING, not a SINGLE EFFING ITEM I bought with the label 'made in China' has held up even remotely to it's promise. Regardless if it's a friggin drill bit, or a cast piece of steel. ALL total garbage. The damage across the US caused by those inferior products, compounded by the amount of labor to fix those problems MUST outweigh the 'savings'. We have a local hardware store which has stock from the 40-60's as the previous generations must have had some luck buying up stock in the right moment. The quality of those parts is shocking compared to current stuff. Pipe fittings held 100 years, and now we have to exchange everything every 2-5 years because of 'shareholder value'... Haha,... we must be completely retarded as we are complaining and complaining and complaining. I personally think that it's actually time to stop buying that crap. It is time NOT to shop at Home Depot, or Lowes, or similar Asian hardware markets. I am having WAY LESS HASSLE since I buy US and European stuff at McMasters. Twice as expensive, but hey, it holds up till I DO something stupid with it. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY! Rainer On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Andy Pugh <a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > 2010/1/2 Dave <e...@dc9.tzo.com>: >> I'd prefer to use >> all plastic but there are some places were plastic just doesn't work well. > > Stainless? > > -- > atp > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community > Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support > A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy > Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- _________________________________ Rainer M. Schmidt Complex Consulting LLC b...@complexllc.com Voice (646)-657-8815 FAX (646)-435-9216 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users