these servos used to be driven by a large scr drive. They reach their maximum rpm at 150v and will handle much more current than we are throwing at it (they work out to about 1A per ft-lb
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servotag.JPG http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSC_0242.JPG Other than a little rough around the edges and lots of dirt - they seem to work great. (we did have one bad tach though) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:38:50 -0700 dave <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote: > > Well - I fail at copy and paste... > > Details ... details. > > Kool project. That should be a fun machine with all of it functioning. > > EMC2 with servos should nicely outperform the original. > > Thanks for sharing. > > I've got a couple of Inland servo motors around here that I picked up at > Boeing Surplus. probably 90 V and umpteen amps. > > Dave > > > > this should work better. > > > > I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. > > > > This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it > > to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 > > brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be > > 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good > > 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the > > point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank > > to peter and seb for their work). > > > > Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. > > > > lets see if I can create a linear picture show... > > this is what the machine looked like in the 60s > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG > > > > this is what the machine looks like now > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG > > > > getting rid of the old control > > http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg > > > > this is the old electrical box > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG > > > > we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg > > > > here is it mostly hooked up > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG > > > > This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run > > all 3 axis > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG > > > > open > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG > > > > stripped > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG > > > > shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG > > > > servo plate mounted > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg > > > > belts (B axis still needs a solution) > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg > > > > Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the > > saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to > > do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of > > gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG > > > > we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple > > into this shaft. > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG > > > > here is the tool chain logic working... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s > > > > here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y > > > > Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about > > once a week.) > > > > sam > > > > > > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. > > > > > > This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting > > > it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are > > > 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will > > > be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a > > > good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are > > > at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is > > > awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). > > > > > > Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. > > > > > > lets see if I can create a linear picture show... > > > this is what the machine looked like in the 60s > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG > > > > > > this is what the machine looks like now > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG > > > > > > getting rid of the old control > > > http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg > > > > > > this is the old electrical box > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG > > > > > > we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg > > > > > > here is it mostly hooked up > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG > > > > > > This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run > > > all 3 axis > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG > > > > > > open > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG > > > > > > stripped > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG > > > > > > shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG > > > > > > servo plate mounted > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg > > > > > > belts (B axis still needs a solution) > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg > > > > > > Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the > > > saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to > > > do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of > > > gears. Don't think the previous owner ever did this as we had to take a > > > good .040" off the washer. The washer is the spacer between the 2 lower > > > small gears. > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/gears.JPG > > > > > > we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple > > > into this shaft. > > > http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...yaxisshaft.JPG > > > > > > here is the tool chain logic working... > > > YouTube - Kearney and Trecker tool chain logic working in EMC2. > > > Mechanically barcoded tools > > > > > > here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis > > > YouTube - Kearney and Trecker first closed loop movement with EMC2. > > > > > > Getting there Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once > > > a week. > > > > > > sam > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program > > > Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users > > > worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue > > > and > > > speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program > > Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users > > worldwide. 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