On Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:38:31 pm Kent A. Reed did opine:
> Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:23:44 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13:11 pm Andy Pugh did opine:
> >> > On 9 September 2010 02:52, Gene Heskett<gene.hesk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > > If its going to take more iron to run this, how about a
> >>> > > suggestion for a newer motherboard, video card etc that can
> >>> > > do all this in real time?
> >> >
> >> > I am not sure it makes sense to "upgrade" a working system to a
> >> > non-working one, then invest more money in extra hardware to fix
> >> > the problem.
> >
> > So I am beginning to see. However, Kubuntu-6.06 was working well, but
> > not update able to the 2.4 emc.
> >
> >> > How did you do the upgrade? I am assuming a new LiveCD install,
> >> > which also installed Ubuntu 10?
> >
> > Yes, from the iso just released. Even that was a problem, I had to do
> > a cut and splice of the little rubber belt in the dvd reader in order
> > to get it to load and unload the tray. Old age& heat, so I took
> > about 1/8" out of the belt& super glued the cut ends together again.
> >
> >> > Any problem you see is probably with the
> >> > Linux kernel rather than EMC2 (You could, in theory step back to
> >> > 8,04 and install EMC2 2.4.3 on that. I am running 2.5-pre on
> >> > Ubuntu 8.04 with no issues).
> >
> > Where can I find that install image?
> >
> >> > At a guess I would say that the problem might be with the video
> >> > driver, but that is merely a guess from a position of ignorance.
> >
> > I know its part of it, without an xorg.conf file, it uses the radeon
> > driver, and I have found the vesa driver is a requirement for emc. I
> > have posted to the xorg list to see if someone there can give me a
> > hint about forcing the vesa driver.
> >
> >> > If you want to upgrade hardware anyway, the Intel D510MO board is
> >> > small, cheap, silent, and works well with EMC2 using the onboard
> >> > video and other peripherals.
> >
> > And this is size compat with a medium tower case?
> >
> > Thanks Andy. I hope this gets to the list, gmail is refusing to take
> > my posts at smtp.gmail.com again, so while I am using it as an
> > address, I am posting thru the tv stations server. Grrrr.
> >
> > -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of
> > liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed
> > Howdershelt (Author) No line available at 300 baud.
>
> Gene:
>
> Sorry to hear your tale of woe.
>
> Regarding the Radeon driver, have you read the helpful remarks at
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver ?
>
Not well, but printed for tomorrows reference, thank you.
> Does dmesg have anything useful to say?
Only the huge latencies, and quite a few verses of this when I last stopped
emc.
[102700.227629] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.227646] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227651] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227655] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227660] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227664] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227669] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227673] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227677] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.227681]
[102700.282053] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.282068] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282072] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282077] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282081] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282086] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282090] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282094] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282099] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.282102]
[102700.335734] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.335741] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335746] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335750] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335755] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335759] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335763] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335768] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335772] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.335775]
[102700.389292] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.389298] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389303] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389307] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389312] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389316] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389320] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389325] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389329] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.389332]
[102700.389340] radeon 0000:01:00.0: DVI-I-1: EDID invalid.
[102700.389355] [drm:radeon_dvi_detect] *ERROR* DVI-I-1: probed a monitor but
no|invalid EDID
[102700.456915] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.456921] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456926] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456930] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456935] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456939] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456943] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456948] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456952] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.456955]
[102700.510446] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.510452] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510457] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510461] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510466] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510470] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510474] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510479] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510483] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.510487]
[102700.564005] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.564011] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564016] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564021] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564025] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564029] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564034] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564038] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564042] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.564046]
[102700.617566] [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
[102700.617573] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617578] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617582] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617587] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617591] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617595] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617600] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617604] <3>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
................
[102700.617607]
[102700.617612] radeon 0000:01:00.0: DVI-I-1: EDID invalid.
And that seems to be new, its not something I have noted before.
>
> I endorse Andy's comment about the D510M0 board. Just remember that,
> unlike its predecessor the D945GCLF2, it does NOT bring out the parallel
> port lines to a connector on the backplane. You'll have to work
> something out (shouldn't be too hard for someone who first rebuilds his
> dvd reader on the fly!). The D510M0 is a mini-ITX board 170mm x 170mm.
> Size-wise, this is no problem in a medium tower case, but if your case
> is old enough, it may not match up with any mounting holes :-( Still,
> it's so dang inexpensive, how can you pass it up?
Well, then maybe its time I check Tiger Direct for a D510MO board, cpu &
memory.
I assume it has a few usb ports, onboard network and has a PATA drive interface.
> Good hunting.
>
> Regards,
> Kent
>
> PS - to paraphrase the Gospel, those who live by the upgrade, die by the
> upgrade.
Yup, and I am wounded ATM. But, in going on 76 years, it sure isn't the
first time. ;)
Thanks Kent.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
My father was a saint, I'm not.
-- Indira Gandhi
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